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PostPosted: Thu Sep 21, 2017 3:35 am 
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No, he has clearly stated that immigration critics are Nazis and should be imprisoned for their opinions. There's some hyperbole for you nero, rintamakarkuri.

Well, have you read what I have written about those "refugees".

Immigration in general is another thing, many of the immigrants in Finland for countries like Germany, England, France and so on came because of our blond women. ;)

But then bringing in racism, xenophobia, cult of superiority sounds like nazism to me.

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But then bringing in racism, xenophobia, cult of superiority sounds like nazism to me.




So tell us..

How does your favoring the imprisonment of those with a differing political opinion NOT sound like the authoritarian nazi boogeymen you drone on about?

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Well, have you read what I have written about those "refugees".

Immigration in general is another thing, many of the immigrants in Finland for countries like Germany, England, France and so on came because of our blond women. ;)

But then bringing in racism, xenophobia, cult of superiority sounds like nazism to me.



Sometimes I feel what I write doesn't really come across that well.

Almost all of my coworkers and staff are foreigners. The fencing club I co-founded is primarily English because we have immigrants among co-founders.


Cult of superiority? Look at the achievements of Islamic world. Swedes and some others are going to see in full effect what it means to have actual Islamic politics put in place in their countries - they already have de facto sharia law in place when women need to have escorts, need to mind their clothing and with no-go zones in the Islam's colonies where they have their own laws and the law enforcement cannot enter without mounting a large scale paramilitary operation.

People having exotic sex is none of my business. Facing a future where the Islam becomes a major part of our politics and where street crime is censored if perpetrators are Islamists, these are my main griefs.

As well as fuckers like you who want things to stay as they are by imprisoning critics.

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https://pjmedia.com/trending/2017/09/20 ... the-right/

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Alarmed by Islam, Europe's Gays Are Moving to the Right

BY BRUCE BAWER SEPTEMBER 20, 2017

For decades, in both America and Europe, the gay establishment – gay magazines, gay rights organizations, and self-designated gay leaders – have been dictating politics to the gay multitudes. Those politics have been consistently left-wing and Democratic. Not all gays have played follow-the-leader, but most have, so that in the 2016 U.S. presidential elections Hillary Clinton won a far larger percentage of the gay vote than Donald Trump.

Even though Hillary had opposed same-sex marriage until 2013, had taken millions of dollars from governments that execute homosexuals, and was married to the man who signed the Defense of Marriage Act, the gay mafia had managed to depict her as gay-friendly while depicting Donald Trump, a longtime gay marriage supporter, as an enemy of gay rights.

Even more perverse than the official gay take on Trump vs. Clinton is the official gay party line on Islam. To get a good picture of this party line, all you need to do is glance through the archives of The Advocate, a gay news magazine.

“Islam is not intrinsically homophobic,” wrote Trudy Ring in a 2013 Advocate report about Muslim “activists and scholars” who,she claimed, were making progress in their effort to make Islam “more welcoming to LGBT people.” In a 2014 piece, Stevie St. John promoted a Muslim lesbian's claim that the Koran “prescribes no punishment for being gay or transgender.”

True, but wildly deceptive: in fact, the Koran contains explicit condemnations of homosexual conduct, while the punishments for such conduct are spelled out in Islamic law. Then there's the 2017 Advocate article in which one Samra Habib happily noted that after the Orlando Pulse nightclub massacre, many news media eschewed anti-Islamic “finger-pointing” and instead “offered many queer Muslims a platform to share how they too were in mourning and how they often felt doubly ostracized” – victimized, in other words, by both “Islamophobia and homophobia".

Any whitewash of Islam is reprehensible. But when gays whitewash Islam in a publication read by other gays, it's downright dangerous. No ideology on Earth is more anti-gay. In ten Muslim countries, gay sex is punishable by death. To pretend that there's any way of reconciling homosexuality and Islam, or any chance of transforming Islam into a gay-friendly faith, is to encourage a menacing fantasy.

So it's promising to observe that as Islam plants its roots ever more deeply in the soil of Western Europe, more and more European gays are wising up, breaking ranks with the fools and liars in their midst who preach that the “gay community” and the ummah are natural allies, and casting their ballots for politicians whom they'd previously scorned.

The New Pecking Order: Muslims Over Gays

In April, for example, Thomas Adamson of the Associated Press reported that although gay rights groups in France had not wavered in their fierce opposition to Marine Le Pen's Front National (FN), the party now enjoyed a higher level of support among gay voters than among straights.


Adamson quoted gay artist and Paris resident Kelvin Hopper: “Faced with the current threats, particularly from radical Islam, gays have realized they’ll be the first victims of these barbarians, and only Marine is proposing radical solutions.” The historically anti-gay FN, noted Adamson, now had “more top aides who are publicly known to be gay than any other French political party.”

On September 14, CNN's website ran a story about gays in Germany who are supporting the Alternativ für Deutschland (AfD). A middle-aged Bremen couple interviewed for the piece had been violently gay-bashed by “two locally known Muslim extremists” who “were never arrested and later fled to Syria.” After failing to receive justice from local prosecutors and the mayor's office, the couple had cast their lot in with AfD.

“I don't like everything they say,” admitted one of the two gay men, a longtime leftist and former Green Party voter, “but this is too dangerous for gay people to live openly here, if we get attacked like that. We need a party that's talking openly about this.” Like FN, AfD opposes same-sex marriage – but also has gay people in its leadership, and is supported by a higher percentage of gays than of straights.

That many gays are embracing parties like FN and AfD is a source of bafflement and outrage for politicians, journalists, academics, and gay activists who are used to the idea of gays as docile field hands on the leftist plantation. Their response to this new development is to smear the right-wing parties as cynical exploiters of the gay electorate, and to find some condescending way of interpreting gay support for these parties.

For example, German social psychologist Beate Kupper told CNN that gays are joining AfD because it makes them feel better, as members of an “out” group, to demonize members of another “out” group.

In March, J. Lester Feder of BuzzFeed interviewed a “group of queer and immigrant activists” in Amsterdam who angrily dismissed politician Geert Wilders's expressions of concern about Muslim gay-hatred as “racism dressed up in liberal drag.” Wilders, Feder warned, wasn't alone: Dutch prime minister Mark Rutte was also now saying that immigrants who “harass gays” should leave the country.

Gay former MP Tofik Dibi, whose parents came from Morocco, admitted to Feder that “anti-LGBT attitudes are a real problem in some immigrant communities” (euphemism, anyone?), but insisted that politicians who raise this issue don’t care about gays: they're using it “as a weapon” against Muslims.

Note that rhetorical sleight of hand. In reality, gays aren't bashing Muslims in Europe; Muslims are bashing gays. But Dibi turns that reality on its head, transforming perpetrators into victims.

Then there are the out-and-out lies served up by the likes of Tanja Ineke – head of the Netherlands' leading gay-rights organization, no less – who told Feder that “immigrants don’t pose a special threat to LGBT people.” Tell that to the countless Dutch gays who, fearful of being beaten by Muslim gangs in a city that was once the safest place on Earth for them, have fled Amsterdam for provincial towns or moved abroad. Because of the city's demographic revolution, Amsterdam's gay scene is a shadow of what it was twenty or even ten years ago.

To his credit, Feder at least included in his article a memorable quotation from the late, great Pim Fortuyn, the gay sociologist-turned-politician whose stern warnings of the dangers of Islamization led to his assassination fifteen years ago. “I have no desire,” said Fortuyn, “to have to go through the emancipation of women and homosexuals all over again.”

Alas, unless Wilders and other politicians who dare to criticize Islam gain power very soon, the closing down in Western Europe not just of gay rights but of all kinds of rights will proceed apace, and emancipation of any kind will increasingly look like a pipe dream.

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 21, 2017 1:23 pm 
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Took a while for the dozy buggers to wake up. I imagine as time goes on it'll happen to more and more people but unfortunately the damage will be done by then.

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The Pulse Nightclub attack was portrayed as chiefly about homophobia and it was frequently described as "a mass shooting".

Yes, hatred of gays was a factor and it was technically a mass shooting but it was at its core, unequivocally an act of Islamic terrorism aimed at "unbelievers". It was just a particularly unislamic group of non-believers.

You might as well call the 9-11 attack an "aviation accident"

Jews and gays will be the first to go when the KKKaliphate arrives

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It only means average gay has more awareness and common sense than a feminist. Then again, you're what you are, gay, straight, something in between - not by choice, just how your brain is wired.

Whereas no one is born to feminism, it takes active denial to immerse oneself in the feminist religion.

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Two immigrants stab themselves on stairs of Finnish parliament building.

This kind of Islam I can support, we used to say "I wish these terrorists would start stabbing from themselves".

The only downside is that on top of their expensive upkeep I have to now cough up money for their hospital bills too.

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Kameolontti wrote:
It only means average gay has more awareness and common sense than a feminist. Then again, you're what you are, gay, straight, something in between - not by choice, just how your brain is wired.

Whereas no one is born to feminism, it takes active denial to immerse oneself in the feminist religion.


Here in the US, a lot of gays still buy into the Dem party propaganda regarding anyone to the right of them being authoritarian christian religious zealots out to lock them up or burn them at the stake. In my experience, christian zealotry has been almost non-existent for over a quarter century. About as rare as the KKK, Neo-Nazis, or any other boogeymen the left try to laughably portray as somehow commonplace. :lol:

The same kind of identitarian group scare tactics they've long used on various minorities. The same old misleading generalizations such as those portraying Republicans as all the big rich business magnates who trample the common folk underfoot. Which is a very old characterization left over from the late 19th and early 20th century's lawless days of runaway monopolies and the period's huge industrial revolution worker exploitation. Bullshit that is over a century old, but still falsely pushed as being the present day situation simply for political gain.

Nowadays things are completely different. The Democrats & the left have become the party of special interests. The party with a huge amount of the big money & big business backing. But they do their best to portray themselves otherwise, and this self portrayal seems to work on a swath of people who don't think to question it. I say "self portrayal" because their representation in media comes, overwhelmingly, from card carrying party members who run the vast majority of it. When well over 90% of campaign donations from media personalities went to one side during the last election, it's obvious they control how they portray themselves, and their views, in the legacy media.

Minorities & gays, in particular, are fed constant fear-mongering BS. To "keep them on the Democrat plantation" as some folks put it. Those minorities who don't conform are belittled and harassed, but they're still a growing number. The hysterics of the left, after this election, are pushing more away on a regular basis. The Democratic party is losing members at an increased rate lately. On the other side of the aisel, I think many have also awoken to some of the bullshit in the Republican camp too, and there has been an ongoing take-over by the more Libertarian elements in it lately, but that's a different topical muse for another thread. Things slowly swinging back to the center, as it needs to be.

My sister has a couple gay friends. They told me they have Republican, and even religious, gay friends. He talked like it was an oddity, but admitted it was more common in the gay community than people think. Having a 'conservative' nature just means a person will naturally be more conservative about publicly expressing their political views, I imagine. Especially when all their liberal friends will harass them about it. I can only imagine how many would be leaving the Dem plantation if the left keeps pushing their praise of Islam.

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Kameolontti wrote:
It only means average gay has more awareness and common sense than a feminist. Then again, you're what you are, gay, straight, something in between - not by choice, just how your brain is wired.

Whereas no one is born to feminism, it takes active denial to immerse oneself in the feminist religion.


Here in the US, a lot of gays still buy into the Dem party propaganda regarding anyone to the right of them being authoritarian christian religious zealots out to lock them up or burn them at the stake. In my experience, christian zealotry has been almost non-existent for over a quarter century. About as rare as the KKK, Neo-Nazis, or any other boogeymen the left try to laughably portray as somehow commonplace. :lol:

The same kind of identitarian group scare tactics they've long used on various minorities. The same old misleading generalizations such as those portraying Republicans as all the big rich business magnates who trample the common folk underfoot. Which is a very old characterization left over from the late 19th and early 20th century's lawless days of runaway monopolies and the period's huge industrial revolution worker exploitation. Bullshit that is over a century old, but still falsely pushed as being the present day situation simply for political gain.

Nowadays things are completely different. The Democrats & the left have become the party of special interests. The party with a huge amount of the big money & big business backing. But they do their best to portray themselves otherwise, and this self portrayal seems to work on a swath of people who don't think to question it. I say "self portrayal" because their representation in media comes, overwhelmingly, from card carrying party members who run the vast majority of it. When well over 90% of campaign donations from media personalities went to one side during the last election, it's obvious they control how they portray themselves, and their views, in the legacy media.

Minorities & gays, in particular, are fed constant fear-mongering BS. To "keep them on the Democrat plantation" as some folks put it. Those minorities who don't conform are belittled and harassed, but they're still a growing number. The hysterics of the left, after this election, are pushing more away on a regular basis. The Democratic party is losing members at an increased rate lately. On the other side of the aisel, I think many have also awoken to some of the bullshit in the Republican camp too, and there has been an ongoing take-over by the more Libertarian elements in it lately, but that's a different topical muse for another thread. Things slowly swinging back to the center, as it needs to be.

My sister has a couple gay friends. They told me they have Republican, and even religious, gay friends. He talked like it was an oddity, but admitted it was more common in the gay community than people think. Having a 'conservative' nature just means a person will naturally be more conservative about publicly expressing their political views, I imagine. Especially when all their liberal friends will harass them about it. I can only imagine how many would be leaving the Dem plantation if the left keeps pushing their praise of Islam.



Logic:

Christians, bring up the five most nutty Christians who talk about doing stuff and condemn other people.
-> All Christians are haters and bigots.

Hundreds of thousands of Muslims murder people in the name of Islam.
-> Nothing to do with Islam.

Red Cross on ambulances.
-> Crusading Christians!

Thousands of Muslims butcher infidels wearing bandanas inscribed with religious texts.
-> Nothing to do with Islam.


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