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PostPosted: Sat Jun 30, 2018 11:35 am 
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That is one of the more advanced uses of html I've ever seen.


The video appears to jump off in the (real or not) Sweden-Switzerland confusion. The message it wants to deliver is basically about stopping prostitution in Switzerland. I imagine the makers of this, or those that comissioned it do not frequent 4chan, or various other media where Sweden is a club against refugees, migration etc. Thus the video gets a reaction - but it's not so much about the whores in Switzerland, but hate for Sweden. Hilarious... :lol:


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wulfir wrote:
Anthropoid wrote:
That is one of the more advanced uses of html I've ever seen.


The video appears to jump off in the (real or not) Sweden-Switzerland confusion. The message it wants to deliver is basically about stopping prostitution in Switzerland. I imagine the makers of this, or those that comissioned it do not frequent 4chan, or various other media where Sweden is a club against refugees, migration etc. Thus the video gets a reaction - but it's not so much about the whores in Switzerland, but hate for Sweden. Hilarious... :lol:


Could something like this lead to a war between neutrals (Switzerland and Sweden)? :lol:

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 Post subject: Re: Welcome to Sweden
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Could something like this lead to a war between neutrals (Switzerland and Sweden)? :lol:


Impossible. Sweden is no longer a neutral country... :P


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Anti-immigration media in Sweden pushed an article listing the most dangerous countries for women. Topped by a bunch of shithole nations and the USA. Appears to have been based on this:

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-women-dangerous-poll-factbox/factbox-which-are-the-worlds-10-most-dangerous-countries-for-women-idUSKBN1JM01Z


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 Post subject: Re: Welcome to Sweden
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wulfir wrote:
Anti-immigration media in Sweden pushed an article listing the most dangerous countries for women. Topped by a bunch of shithole nations and the USA. Appears to have been based on this:

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-women-dangerous-poll-factbox/factbox-which-are-the-worlds-10-most-dangerous-countries-for-women-idUSKBN1JM01Z


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The Thomson Reuters Foundation survey of about 550 experts on women’s issues . . .


So they surveyed Women studies faculty members. What possible inaccuracies or inconsistencies in instrumentation and measurement could POSSIBLY have leaked into such a study!? Its a motherfucking PERFECT study, clearly! :P

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 Post subject: Re: Welcome to Sweden
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:P


Swedish anti-immigration media - pushing the truths the MSM ignore... :lol:


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 Post subject: Re: Welcome to Sweden
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The Thomson Reuters Foundation survey of about 550 experts on women’s issues . . .


So they surveyed Women studies faculty members. What possible inaccuracies or inconsistencies in instrumentation and measurement could POSSIBLY have leaked into such a study!? Its a motherfucking PERFECT study, clearly! :P


I suspect the figures were thrown off by an overabundance of menstruation and women's studies brainwashing.

Just a guess..

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https://www.yahoo.com/news/swedish-law- ... 36060.html

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New Swedish law recognises sex without consent as rape

Camille BAS-WOHLERT

Stockholm (AFP) - A tough new law that will recognise sex without explicit consent as rape comes into effect in Sweden on Sunday, after the country was rocked by the #MeToo movement denouncing sexual harassment and assault.

The law stipulates that a person has committed rape if they have been part of a sexual act in which the other person has not participated "freely".

Rape had previously been defined as a sexual act carried out with the use of violence or threat.

Now for someone to face rape charges, "it is no longer necessary that violence or threats were applied, or that the aggressor took advantage of the victim's particularly vulnerable situation," according to the government.

Courts will need to pay particular attention to whether consent was expressed with words, gestures or in another manner, and judges will have to rule on the issue, according to the law passed in May.

Judge Anna Hannell, who helped create the law, said there was "absolutely no requirement to formally say 'yes', to hit a button in an app or anything else of the same type".

"Simply participating physically is a sign of consent," she told Swedish news agency TT.

More than 7,000 rapes were reported in Sweden last year, a 10 percent increase compared to 2016, latest official figures show.

Rape is punishable by up to six years in prison, with a maximum penalty of 10 years if the victim is a minor.

Backed by the ruling Social Democrat-Green coalition, the law has drawn criticism from several quarters including the Swedish lawyers' association and the national law council.

Opponents say it will force judges to make arbitrary decisions on whether or not there was consent.

However, the government has defended the legislation.

"#MeToo showed with force that a lot still needs to be done to fight sexual harassment and sexual violence at work and in the rest of society," Gender Equality Minister Lena Hallengren said in a statement on Sunday.

The government will allocate 120 million krona (11.5 million euros/$13.5 million) to combat sexual abuse, she added.

- 'Changing behaviours' -

The #MeToo campaign exposing sexual misconduct, which began with the series of allegations against Hollywood mogul Harvey Weinstein, has shaken up nearly every sector in Sweden, one of the most gender-equal countries in the world.





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The judge says "absolutely no requirement to formally say 'yes', to hit a button in an app or anything else of the same type" and "Simply participating physically is a sign of consent,"

But what does "Simply participating physically" even mean?
Does it mean "being there" is a sign of consent?
Does it mean that any indication of 'participation' (kissing, touching, etc) is a consent for further sex (penetration)?
Does it mean that one partner cannot change their mind once physical interaction starts (kissing and/or touching but then change their mind before penetration)?

As I think it said in the article, it will come down to a "he said/she said" (or in more 'modern' PC terms "party A said/party B said") and will be up to the judge to make a decision.

In some places (jurisdictions/states/countries) there is a tendency to believe the woman over what the man said, so would that play into how the judge makes their decision?

The only foolproof method to protect yourself may be (as the judge stated) to have an app with both parties indicating consent or to have a notary with the proper forms waiting on standby... ;-)

Of course I do not live in Sweden so my understanding/opinion/comments with regards to this may not be accurate.

What say you Wulfir?

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 Post subject: Re: Welcome to Sweden
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What say you Wulfir?


It ain't easy being a guy. Maybe we're all gonna' have to get into that dinousaur porn now - seems hard to rape a dinosaur...

Consent seems fair to me - but this law, hmmm, I guess one better not piss of the girl afterwards. Or you'd be dragged off to court on rape charges... :shock:


I guess we could head down to Switzerland where they still have hookers, can it be rape if you pay good money in advance?


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wulfir wrote:
chijohnaok wrote:
What say you Wulfir?


It ain't easy being a guy. Maybe we're all gonna' have to get into that dinousaur porn now - seems hard to rape a dinosaur...

Consent seems fair to me - but this law, hmmm, I guess one better not piss of the girl afterwards. Or you'd be dragged off to court on rape charges... :shock:


I guess we could head down to Switzerland where they still have hookers, can it be rape if you pay good money in advance?

Well, it could be worse. The female could call it rape, if she didn't get orgasm. :lol:

Actually I am kind anticipating such an initiative.

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