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 Post subject: Re: Racism or reality?
PostPosted: Sun May 24, 2015 12:31 am 
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Gary,

You preferred an example from the US, here is one:

Professor Kamau Kambon

Here is a speech that he gave on C-SPAN:



If you don't want to watch the whole video, skip to about the 7:25 minute mark.

His credentials are listed here:

http://www.kamaukambon.org/index.php/profile

I suppose the question now is 'Does calling for the extermination of the white race' rise to the level of racism?

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Sure it's racism. No doubt about it. I guess my question which I couldn't find an answer to (strangely enough even Wikipedia doesn't have an article on him) is what happened after he said that? Is he still a professor at any university in the US? I see he was a professor at NCS but that was in 2003. I see no mention of him after he made his statement in 2005. So I don't know if this is a an example of a black professor who didn't get fired for the comment or not.

Does he deserve a job at a university? Most definitely NOT.

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Police have launched an investigation into the controversial students’ union diversity officer who tweeted ‘kill all white men’.


Irony everywhere these days.


This kind of nonsense doesn't need to be racism. A better label would be "persecution".

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You could never peg a particular decision on ONLY ethnicity or ONLY sex. The SJW talking points are so slippery that prizing out how these sorts of decisions are made.... given 20 applicants how was the rank order determined .... how much weight on objective measures, how much on subjective, and how much "thumb on the scale" for "preferences" (white males are NEVER preferred)... is damb near an impossible task. It affects hiring and, in the private sector, how bids are evaluated for public contracts. There is a heavy thumb on the scale in favor of "women owned businesses."


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That said, it'd also be wrong to claim that racism has been solely directed at white people.



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Gary Childress wrote:

I am a white man living in America and don't feel like a "third class" citizen. I have never been denied any opportunities based on solely my race. Have you?



Yes. I got straight As in high school and college. Illiterate blacks were offered full scholarships; I wasn't.

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Gary Childress wrote:
chijohnaok wrote:
College is supposed to be a place where you can hear different viewpoints, debate the merits of people's arguement, etc; but now the trend is people going around attempting to silence those who disagree with them.


I'm glad we see pretty much eye to eye on this. :D


So now that we agree on that Gary, what are your thoughts with regards to this?:


http://www.wsj.com/articles/the-campaig ... 1432683566

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OPINION COMMENTARY

The Campaign to Stop Fresh College Thinking
The Koch Foundation gives money to encourage debate on campus. Activists want to silence that debate.


By JOHN HARDIN
May 26, 2015 7:39 p.m. ET
248 COMMENTS

College should be a place where students encounter a diversity of ideas—just ask many of the more than 1.8 million students who are graduating this year. That diversity often relies on charitable foundations, which support countless educational programs across the country. For example, the Charles Koch Foundation, where I work, has responded to hundreds of grant requests from colleges and universities. These requests have led us to support educational initiatives in economics, philosophy, entrepreneurship, criminal justice and other disciplines at more than 250 institutions of higher learning.

Yet student access to a broad range of ideas is under assault. Across the country, political groups from outside the academy are organizing campus crusades to silence those with whom they disagree.

Look at what’s taking place at Mississippi State University. The school will soon launch its new Institute for Market Studies, which was made possible in part by a $365,000 grant from our foundation. Yet before the first book could even be opened, the political-action committee American Bridge filed an open-records request seeking emails between professors and between the school’s faculty and our foundation. This overtly political fishing expedition is designed to intimidate the faculty at MSU, discouraging them from participating in the new institute.

Strong-arm tactics such as these have no place on a college campus, but the MSU incident is not unique.

Similar campaigns, disguised as student initiatives under the “UnKoch My Campus” label, have targeted colleges in Michigan, Kansas, Florida, Virginia and elsewhere in the past year. They want schools to stop accepting our gifts and push the programs these support off campus.

Left-leaning groups are not the only users of pressure tactics. Organizations on the right, such as state Republican groups, have targeted professors with whom they disagree as well. Recently, a University of Wisconsin professor was singled out for espousing ideas with which they disagreed.

Regardless of who initiates them, these attacks are typically organized by political special-interest groups, which mask their true motives by claiming to seek “transparency” in the funding relationships between universities and philanthropists. Yet they only target those with whom they disagree, and the information they claim to seek—the amount of money provided and its purpose—is almost always already publicly available. The grants they target also follow the standards laid out by each university and were thoroughly reviewed by faculty and administrators.

These groups’ real motivation is easy to discern. They don’t want students and scholars to expand their educational horizons. Rather than engage in a vigorous and civil debate about the merits of different ideas, they seek to prevent those with which they disagree from ever being heard.

It’s important to set the record straight on what private grants are and how they work. Last year, institutions of higher learning raised a record-breaking $37 billion in private support. This profoundly matters for students, who benefit from expanded access to new ideas and concepts, and for professors whose intellectual enterprise depends on their ability to decide what they teach, what they study and what their research explores.

At the Charles Koch Foundation, our grants are always a response to requests from administrators and educators. We support professors who add to the variety of ideas available on college campuses. And in every case the school maintains control over its staffing and teaching decisions.

Our grant agreement at Michigan State University, another recent target, is typical of the programs we support. It also illustrates the absurdity of the political attacks.

The grant, about $20,000 a year, enabled political-theory professor Ross Emmett to design and launch an extracurricular reading group for interested students. The group included a two-week discussion of Karl Marx’s “The Communist Manifesto.” After that, the group discussed two books— G.A. Cohen’s “Why Not Socialism?” and “Why Not Capitalism?” by Jason Brennan. As Prof. Emmett has written, he hopes the reading group will give students a chance “to discern and make judgments about truth, to engage ideas and decide for ourselves.”

That’s what a college education is supposed to encourage. But the political attacks disguised as transparency requests will only make it harder for schools to foster that environment. Earlier this spring, Prof. Emmett spent two weeks in legal limbo, worrying that his email correspondence about his scholarly work could be taken out of context by political groups based in Washington, D.C., such as Greenpeace.


At campuses across the country, political groups like American Bridge hope to intimidate and silence those who might contradict their own worldview. Students, faculty and society will suffer if they succeed in driving the diversity of ideas from America’s college campuses.

Mr. Hardin is the director of university relations at the Charles Koch Foundation.



If I recall, you are not a big fan of the Koch Brothers.

So, would your opinion change with regards to "College is supposed to be a place where you can hear different viewpoints, debate the merits of people's argument, etc" change if the grants are given by groups such as the Koch Brothers Foundation?

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 Post subject: Re: Racism or reality?
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Where is racism more prevalent on a global basis?

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Interesting.

So, according to the map, Mexico is more racist that the United States is.

France and a number of other European countries are more racist than the United States is.

Finland is more racist that the US is.

India is the most racist country on the planet.

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