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PostPosted: Thu Jul 05, 2018 2:37 pm 
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Police say the woman was questioned at the scene, and was released.

She is unlikely to face any charges, authorities add.


Also kudos to the prosecutors and law enforcement for their reasonable response.

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 05, 2018 2:39 pm 
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Have to kill or incapacitate mum if you want her kiddies. W/o a gun she'd have scratched out his eyeballs or died trying. Maybe he didn't realize the kiddys were in there :o Talk about trying to rob a hard target gesh.

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PostPosted: Sat Jul 07, 2018 8:01 pm 
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Home Run for the Lions !!!

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Sometime during the night of Sunday 1st and early hours of Monday 2nd July a group of at least three poachers entered Sibuya Game Reserve.
They were armed with, amongst other things, a high powered rifle with a silencer, an axe, wire cutters and had food supplies for a number of days – all the hallmarks of a gang intent on killing rhino and removing their horns.
One of our anti-poaching dogs alerted her handler at about 4.30 am Monday morning that something was amiss. At the same time the handler heard a loud commotion coming from the lions so he suspected that this was what had alerted her and was not concerned. It is not unusual to hear them at night. However, it now appears likely that the dog had been alerted by something else out of the ordinary coming from the lions.
At about 4.30 pm on Tuesday 3rd July one of our field guides on game drive alerted the Anti-Poaching Unit that there appeared to be human remains as well as other items in the immediate vicinity of the lions. I was immediately called to the scene where along with the APU we found the high powered rifle, gloves, wire cutters and the remains of a back pack with food, water and other supplies. We immediately alerted the Indalo (Association of Eastern Cape Game Reserves) Anti-Poaching Cluster and the Police.
Clearly, the poachers had walked into a pride of six lions and some, if not all had been killed.


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 Post subject: Re: Self defense incidents
PostPosted: Mon Jul 30, 2018 4:48 pm 
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http://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/2018/0 ... with-a-22/

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68-Year-Old Woman Takes Down a Home Invader With a .22

BY STAFF WRITER |JUL 26, 2018 |

Around 6:40 p.m. in St. Pauls, N.C., a woman came home to some unexplained noises in her storage building. While armed, she walked into the building and saw James Dority, age 39, standing in the corner. The next thing she knew, he was “lunging at her” in “an aggressive manner.”

She shot him five times with, according to the one report, a .22-caliber gun. When deputies arrived, they found Dority lying on the ground with non-life-threatening wounds. He’s now recovering in a hospital.


The appropriateness of .22 calibers for self defense is a perpetually hot topic among gun owners. In this case, it appears that the woman succeeded in hitting her target each time, which may be the reason for her choice of caliber.

Should she have picked something with more “stopping power”? Possibly, although shot placement tends to trump caliber when it comes to stopping a threat. The important thing is that the job got done, and the woman came away from the situation unharmed.


I believe that there have been discussions on this forum in the past whether a .22 is an adequate self defense weapon.

You can read the original source article here:
https://wpde.com/news/local/68-year-old ... d-intruder


A reader comment to the above article speaks to that:

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July 26, 2018 at 12:05
What’s the best defensive gun? The one closest at hand when you need it…

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 Post subject: Re: Self defense incidents
PostPosted: Mon Jul 30, 2018 5:49 pm 
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I believe that there have been discussions on this forum in the past whether a .22 is an adequate self defense weapon.


Yes there were. :mrgreen:

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although shot placement tends to trump caliber when it comes to stopping a threat.


Something that I pointed out before, and for which I was treated to a ration of shit. :ugeek:

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 Post subject: Re: Self defense incidents
PostPosted: Mon Jul 30, 2018 7:13 pm 
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mdiehl wrote:
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I believe that there have been discussions on this forum in the past whether a .22 is an adequate self defense weapon.


Yes there were. :mrgreen:

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although shot placement tends to trump caliber when it comes to stopping a threat.


Something that I pointed out before, and for which I was treated to a ration of shit. :ugeek:


:)

So in the end it all boils down to:
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What’s the best defensive gun? The one closest at hand when you need it…


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 Post subject: Re: Self defense incidents
PostPosted: Tue Jul 31, 2018 7:30 am 
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I am a believer in "shot placement" ... in fact .. I can be more specific and say "I am a neck man" ... :)

Neck shot this yote at 141m while it was trotting across the alfafa patch (at night of course with a thermal clipon) ... used a "trap lead" ... got the neck hit and the front of the yote went straight down on the ground, no movement.

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Buddy james, with thermal and pvs-14 on head and LRF in hand, ranged this yote for me at 205yds .. and I held six inches over the center of the neck and bang DRT. TBH, the hit was 2.5 inches towards the ear from the exact center of the neck, but with the 5.56(10.3) that was good enough. Yote straight down, no movement.

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Buddy James got this 230 lb boar with 5.56(10.3) and 62gr TSX one shot, 125 yds. I didn't even take a shot. Aiming point halfway between the shoulder and the ear ... a.k.a. the center of the neck .. result ... DRT.

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And most hog hunters frown on people that carry 5.56 for hog hunting ... but our 5.56 10 inch guns are much handier for moving in out of vehicles as well as jumping over fences ... both of which get done a dozen or so times in a given night ... so we accept the frowns and continue on ...
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Why do I practice dot drills almost daily ?

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Bottom line ... shot placement. Even my IPSC (2/3) 12x24 (with a 6x6 face ) steel targets .. at 750yds ... are 12/7.5 = 1.6 MOA targets at 750yds .... not too challenging if you discount the wind factor ... BUT, now hitting the face .. 6x6 that's 0.8 MOA ... totally different ball game! And if you can't consistently hit 3/4 in dots at 100yds ... well then you have nothing but a prayer to hit a 0.8 MOA target at 750yds ...

I got 2 out of 5 face shots at 750yds the last time I tried ...

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The wind got two of the misses (one miss 2 inches left another miss two inches right) ... and the third miss was 2 inches high ... can't blame the wind for that one. But dot drills helps your fundamentals ... all of them, position, sight picture, trigger and breathing ... and you never get done with that. And solid fundamentals helps with shot placement ... and improves the odds of first round kill.

Simple, clear and logical.

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 Post subject: Re: Self defense incidents
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Police: Three Armed Home Invaders Met with Gunfire, One Dead, Two Fled

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Police indicate that three armed home invaders in Memphis, Tennessee, were met by gunfire which left one of the suspects dead and caused the other two to flee.
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https://www.breitbart.com/big-governmen ... -two-fled/
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An armed robber walks into a convenience store in Brazil, intent on robbing the place.

Little did he know that EVERY customer standing around the register was an armed off duty cop. The armed robber was shot by ALL of them.

News article and 2 security camera vids at link below:

http://sandrarose.com/2017/06/armed-sus ... er-inside/

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11/23/2018, 04:20pm

Off-duty CPD officer fatally shoots armed teen during NW Side robbery: police

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A 16-year-old boy was shot and killed early Thursday by an off-duty Chicago police officer who the teen was trying to rob on the Northwest Side, police said.

Another teen also was part of the robbery attempt; he fled, but was caught.

The stepfather of the 16-year-old who was killed had reported him missing — along with the stepfather’s weapon — Wednesday night, according to CPD Deputy Chief Al Nagode. A weapon recovered at the scene matched the description his stepfather provided.

The robbery and shooting occurred about 2:20 a.m. in the 5800 block of North Talman Avenue. The officer was sitting in his personal vehicle in the Arcadia Terrace neighborhood when the teens approached, Nagode told reporters at the scene.

After the 16-year-old pointed a handgun at the officer, Nagode said, the officer handed over his belongings. Then, the second boy reached into the car and patted the officer down.

That teen found a second wallet that contained the officer’s CPD star, Nagode said; the 16-year-old then pointed his gun at the officer and told him not to move.

“The officer, knowing that he’s armed, was forced to pull out his weapon, and he fires at the individual,” Nagode said.

After the officer shot the 16-year-old, the other boy ran away with the officer’s belongings. Other officers soon caught him, Nagode said.

The 17-year-old boy was charged with a felony count of armed robbery with a firearm and two misdemeanor counts of theft, police said. He was expected to appear in juvenile court on Friday.

“Not having a phone on him now, the officer begins to shout, asking for help,” Nagode said. “Our neighbor comes out and responds, [telling] him that he needs an ambulance.”

The 16-year-old was brought to St. Francis Hospital in Evanston, and was pronounced dead shortly after arriving. He was identified as Sarge Junior, with a last known address in West Rogers Park, according to the Cook County Medical Examiner’s office.

An autopsy Friday found that Junior died from multiple gunshot wounds. His death was ruled a homicide.

Gilda Sebeck lives one block east with her husband, John Sebeck, a retired Chicago police officer. She said the gunshots woke her up.

She knows the officer’s parents, who live on that block of Talman, she said.

They are “lovely people … the kind of people you’d want to have as neighbors,” she said. “This neighborhood is a good neighborhood. We look out for one another.”

The officer was parked alone after going to a movie theater with two friends, Nagode said.

He had his head down when the two teens approached his vehicle.

Police said the 32-year-old officer has been with the department for six years. He is assigned to the Major Accidents Investigation Unit.

The Civilian Office of Police Accountability was investigating the use of force by police and the officer involved will be placed on administrative duties for 30 days, police said.

COPA urges anyone who has information about the incident, or witnessed the shooting, or has video of the incident, to call them at 312-746-3609.

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The weapon recovered at the scene in the 5800 block of North Talman | Chicago police

It was the second officer-involved shooting over the past two days. On Tuesday morning, a CPD officer took a bullet to the vest in an exchange of gunfire that wounded another person in the South Side Gresham neighborhood.

Another neighbor, Britt-Marie Harding, said she also was awakened by the first gunshot. Then she heard two more — and after that, screaming.

The stretch of Talman where the shooting occurred is lined with neat bungalows on both sides of the block.

“This street is really quiet. Really, the whole neighborhood,” Harding said.

She was afraid to look out because she didn’t know who was shooting. Detectives came to question her at 4 a.m., she added.

It wasn’t until later in the morning that she saw the blood on the sidewalk in front of a neighbor’s house.

“It’s horrible,” she said later Thursday, with the sidewalk still wet from where the neighbor had hosed off the blood.

“I feel so sad for everyone involved.”

Alice Yin
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Lauren FitzPatrick
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Luke Wilusz
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Additional photos and news videos at above linked article.

This occurred in a residential middle class neighborhood on the North Side of Chicago.

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