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 Post subject: Re: Back to Iraq
PostPosted: Sun Jan 21, 2018 12:53 pm 
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Interesting to know what the German authorities are going to do. Personally, if a Frenchman, or more specially a French woman, was sentenced to death in Iraq or Syira, I would desire that the French authorities does something, as I am against death penalty. At the same time it would not prevent me to sleep.

Iraq sentences German woman to death over IS involvement

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A court in Iraq has sentenced a German woman to death after finding her guilty of belonging to the Islamic State (IS) group.

She was sentenced for providing logistical support and taking part in attacks on Iraqi security forces.

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 Post subject: Re: Back to Iraq
PostPosted: Sun Jan 21, 2018 1:01 pm 
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Interesting to know what the German authorities are going to do. Personally, if a Frenchman, or more specially a French woman, was sentenced to death in Iraq or Syira, I would desire that the French authorities does something, as I am against death penalty. At the same time it would not prevent me to sleep.

Iraq sentences German woman to death over IS involvement

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A court in Iraq has sentenced a German woman to death after finding her guilty of belonging to the Islamic State (IS) group.

She was sentenced for providing logistical support and taking part in attacks on Iraqi security forces.

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I can understand a nation's interest in protecting citizen rights overseas...BUT IMHO a nation should be smart about that.

Example 1:

A US citizen/student Otto Warmbeer was arrested by North Korea for stealing a poster.
That seemed excessive (and he later died, largely at the hands of the NKs)

That IMHO is a good example for where a nation should step up in support of a citizen.

Example 2:
The one that you brought up in your article (one of your citizens joining or supporting a terrorist organization).

IMHO that is NOT a good example for where your nation should step up to support a citizen.

And I agree with you. Were I a German citizen or politician I would not lose any sleep over that lady who got herself sentenced to death in Iraq.

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 Post subject: Re: Back to Iraq
PostPosted: Fri May 25, 2018 11:41 am 
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http://www.breitbart.com/national-secur ... des-death/

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Iraq Sentences Dozens of Foreign Islamic State Brides to Death

24 May 2018

A court in Baghdad, Iraq, sentenced dozens of women married to or widowed by members of the Islamic State (ISIS) to death or life in prison in a mass trial this week.
The Guardian reported that at least 40 women were sentenced to death and approximately 300 people total sentenced to death so far in the country for having ties to the Islamic State.

The women reportedly had ten minutes to beg for their lives before judges passed his sentence upon them, according to the Daily Mail.

The women will be executed in Iraq.

One of the ISIS brides is a French citizen named Djamila Boutoutao, 29. She reportedly appeared in court last month and said, “I thought I had married a rapper.” Boutoutao reportedly added, “It was only when we arrived in Turkey for a week-long ‘holiday’ that I discovered my husband was a jihadist.”

The majority of women sentenced are reportedly widows and the sole caregivers left for the small children born to terrorist fathers.

Many of the women pleaded with the court on the basis that they were not aware their significant others were jihadists.

Many of the brides traveled from Europe and a few came from the United States.

The executions will be the latest in a series of such sentences in the aftermath of the fall of Mosul, the Islamic State “capital” in Iraq. In February, a 48-year-old Turkish woman was sentenced to death for willingly traveling to Iraq with her husband and their children to serve with the Islamic State. Another 11 other foreign widows were reportedly sentenced to life in jail for their involvement with the Islamic State.

Adelle Nazarian is a politics and national security reporter for Breitbart News. Follow her on Facebook and Twitter.



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 Post subject: Re: Back to Iraq
PostPosted: Fri May 25, 2018 2:22 pm 
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http://www.breitbart.com/national-security/2018/05/24/iraq-sentences-dozens-foreign-islamic-state-brides-death/

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Iraq Sentences Dozens of Foreign Islamic State Brides to Death

24 May 2018

A court in Baghdad, Iraq, sentenced dozens of women married to or widowed by members of the Islamic State (ISIS) to death or life in prison in a mass trial this week.
The Guardian reported that at least 40 women were sentenced to death and approximately 300 people total sentenced to death so far in the country for having ties to the Islamic State.

The women reportedly had ten minutes to beg for their lives before judges passed his sentence upon them, according to the Daily Mail.

The women will be executed in Iraq.

One of the ISIS brides is a French citizen named Djamila Boutoutao, 29. She reportedly appeared in court last month and said, “I thought I had married a rapper.” Boutoutao reportedly added, “It was only when we arrived in Turkey for a week-long ‘holiday’ that I discovered my husband was a jihadist.”

The majority of women sentenced are reportedly widows and the sole caregivers left for the small children born to terrorist fathers.

Many of the women pleaded with the court on the basis that they were not aware their significant others were jihadists.

Many of the brides traveled from Europe and a few came from the United States.

The executions will be the latest in a series of such sentences in the aftermath of the fall of Mosul, the Islamic State “capital” in Iraq. In February, a 48-year-old Turkish woman was sentenced to death for willingly traveling to Iraq with her husband and their children to serve with the Islamic State. Another 11 other foreign widows were reportedly sentenced to life in jail for their involvement with the Islamic State.

Adelle Nazarian is a politics and national security reporter for Breitbart News. Follow her on Facebook and Twitter.




You see what I'm talking about when I say "we didn't effectively understand how their minds work."

Had we executed more families for the actions of individual jihadis we might have "won" in Iraq.

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 Post subject: Re: Back to Iraq
PostPosted: Fri May 25, 2018 2:48 pm 
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You see what I'm talking about when I say "we didn't effectively understand how their minds work."

Had we executed more families for the actions of individual jihadis we might have "won" in Iraq.


I would opine that the Soviets did their fair share of executions in their War in Afghanistan and look how that turned out for them.

Sadly, I think that given the rules of engagement that "modern Western" countries operate under, "winning" a war in a majority Muslim country is a Sisyphusian (? see that Sisyphus guy) challenge.

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Could be sissyphusisan . . .

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I Fought Against Muqtada al-Sadr. Now He’s Iraq’s Best Hope.
The former militia leader who once terrorized U.S. forces has reinvented himself as an Iraqi nationalist and a pragmatist.
By Michael D. Sullivan | June 18, 2018, 7:08 AM
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