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http://www.military.com/daily-news/2017 ... -iraq.html

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2 US Troops Killed, More Wounded in Iraq


Stars and Stripes | 13 Aug 2017 | by Chad Garland
IRBIL, Iraq -- Two Americans were killed and five others wounded Sunday while conducting combat operations in northern Iraq, the U.S. military said.

In a statement, the U.S.-led international coalition Operation Inherent Resolve said initial reports indicated the incident was not due to contact with enemy forces; it is under investigation.

The statement did not name the slain soldiers, deferring identification to national authorities.

U.S. troops have been helping support Iraqi forces battling the Islamic State group -- "a truly evil enemy" in the words of Lt. Gen. Stephen J. Townsend, Operation Inherent Resolve commander.

"The entire counter-ISIS coalition sends our deepest condolences to these heroes' families, friends and teammates," Townsend said in a statement. "There are no words to describe the respect I have for you and sorrow I have for your loss. I hope there is some small solace in knowing their loss has meaning for our country and all the nations of the coalition."

After a nine-month battle to oust ISIS from its last urban stronghold in Mosul, Iraqi forces -- closely supported by the U.S.-led coalition -- are preparing to retake the ISIS-held town of Tal Afar west of the city.

The latest deaths bring to nine the number of Americans killed supporting Operation Inherent Resolve this year, including noncombat deaths. Nearly 50 Americans have been wounded in action since the anti-ISIS campaign began in August 2014, according to Pentagon data.


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In a statement, the U.S.-led international coalition Operation Inherent Resolve said initial reports indicated the incident was not due to contact with enemy forces; it is under investigation.


Well, reading between the lines this could be one of two things:
A) There was some sort of an accident; or
B) It was due to contact with "non-enemy" forces, i.e. some Iraqi soldier(s) (jihadist) attacked them

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 Post subject: Re: Back to Iraq
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ISIS Fighters, Having Pledged to Fight or Die, Surrender en Masse

By ROD NORDLANDOCT. 8, 2017
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Don't look so tough to me, could like 'em all with one hand tied behind my back..

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 Post subject: Re: Back to Iraq
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ISIS Fighters, Having Pledged to Fight or Die, Surrender en Masse

By ROD NORDLANDOCT. 8, 2017
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Don't look so tough to me, could like 'em all with one hand tied behind my back..

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Good to hear information such as this.....but this Islamist movement is like a bunch of cockroaches...when the lights come on they scurry into the dark corners to hide. Then when you turn your back on them they scamper back out again and cause trouble.

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Good to hear information such as this.....but this Islamist movement is like a bunch of cockroaches...when the lights come on they scurry into the dark corners to hide. Then when you turn your back on them they scamper back out again and cause trouble.




Yes indeed!


Hell.. wouldn't be surprised to see some of those surrendering ISIS fighters eventually ending up in Europe, wandering freely. :?

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 Post subject: Re: Back to Iraq
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So now Trumpf gets the Nobel Peace Prize and all the rapeugees have to go back, huh?

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http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/201 ... irkuk.html

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Kurds report 'lots of casualties' as Iraqi army retakes Kirkuk


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Iraqi Kurds report that government forces and Shia militias have attacked the Peshmerga in the northern city of Kirkuk, causing "lots of casualties." The disputed multi-ethnic city is claimed by the Kurds, but the Iraqi government can't afford to let it go. Kirkuk is a vital oil center and source of considerable revenue for the Iraqi government.



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ISIS Fighters, Having Pledged to Fight or Die, Surrender en Masse

By ROD NORDLANDOCT. 8, 2017
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https://www.nytimes.com/2017/10/08/worl ... ender.html
Don't look so tough to me, could like 'em all with one hand tied behind my back..

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Do not EVER let these losers out of jail! I would chain them up on a 30 year old plane to Gitmo and give the pilots parachutes. :lol:

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 Post subject: Re: Back to Iraq
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Iraq: The Kurds Get Reminded


October 20, 2017: The Iraqi military and Iran-backed Shia militias have moved into Kirkuk province, which the Kurds claim is part of the autonomous Kurdish north. Apparently, rather than fight a war they know they would probably lose, Kurdish troops and over 100,000 Kurdish civilians fled. There is some fighting near the border between Kurdish northern Iraq and the rest of Iraq. This involves Kurdish forces and advancing Iran-backed Shia militia. These militias have been unpredictable since Iran was allowed to form them in 2014.

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There are other sources of friction between Kurds and Arab Iraqis. The big one about Kurdish control of Kirkuk province. There was supposed to be a referendum in Kirkuk in 2007 to decide if it should become part of the Kurdish autonomous areas or remain “Arab”. Kirkuk is about 83 kilometers south of the current Kurdish capital Erbil and nearly 300 kilometers north of Baghdad. The Arab controlled national government kept delaying the referendum in Kirkuk because they thought they would lose. That’s because for over a decade Saddam Hussein had deliberately driven Kurds from Kirkuk and brought in poor Sunnis from the south to take the place (and homes) of the departed Kurds. But that was not all. Saddam Hussein was particularly hated by the Kurds for his brutal efforts to quash Kurdish unrest. These included killing over 8,000 Barzani men and boys and using chemical weapons several times. During the 1988 “Anfal” campaign the Iraqi Kurd town of Halabja suffered 5,000 dead and 10,000 wounded when it was attacked with chemical munitions (sarin nerve gas and mustard gas.) Evidence of this attack got out and was verified. The Kurds see the various Sunni Islamic terror groups that arose in Iraq after 2003 as just another example of Arab depravity and treachery.

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Then there is the Iranian factor. The Iranians always had better relations with the Talibani clan than with the dominant (since the 1990s, and especially after 2007) Barzani clan. There have been incidents in Kurdish Iraq over the last few years as Iranian efforts to aid the Talibani became more visible, and further deepened the divisions between the Barzani and Taliban factions. This influence was used to convince the Kurds that using their superior fighters to defend Kirkuk province was not a good idea, especially since the Barzanis had allowed the referendum to take place and now all the neighbors were threatening to blockade northern Iraq and starve out the Kurds. The Americans refused to take sides and apparently told the Kurds that this was a mess the Kurds had created and it was up to Kurds to fix it without making the situation worse.

https://strategypage.com/qnd/iraq/artic ... 71020.aspx

Someone´s take on the situation. :)
Read the longish article, covers a lot of ground. Note the Kurdish division.

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 Post subject: Re: Back to Iraq
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Iraq: The Kurds Get Reminded
October 20, 2017: The Iraqi military and Iran-backed Shia militias have moved into Kirkuk province, which the Kurds claim is part of the autonomous Kurdish north. Apparently, rather than fight a war they know they would probably lose, Kurdish troops and over 100,000 Kurdish civilians fled. There is some fighting near the border between Kurdish northern Iraq and the rest of Iraq. This involves Kurdish forces and advancing Iran-backed Shia militia. These militias have been unpredictable since Iran was allowed to form them in 2014.
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There are other sources of friction between Kurds and Arab Iraqis. The big one about Kurdish control of Kirkuk province. There was supposed to be a referendum in Kirkuk in 2007 to decide if it should become part of the Kurdish autonomous areas or remain “Arab”. Kirkuk is about 83 kilometers south of the current Kurdish capital Erbil and nearly 300 kilometers north of Baghdad. The Arab controlled national government kept delaying the referendum in Kirkuk because they thought they would lose. That’s because for over a decade Saddam Hussein had deliberately driven Kurds from Kirkuk and brought in poor Sunnis from the south to take the place (and homes) of the departed Kurds. But that was not all. Saddam Hussein was particularly hated by the Kurds for his brutal efforts to quash Kurdish unrest. These included killing over 8,000 Barzani men and boys and using chemical weapons several times. During the 1988 “Anfal” campaign the Iraqi Kurd town of Halabja suffered 5,000 dead and 10,000 wounded when it was attacked with chemical munitions (sarin nerve gas and mustard gas.) Evidence of this attack got out and was verified. The Kurds see the various Sunni Islamic terror groups that arose in Iraq after 2003 as just another example of Arab depravity and treachery.
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Then there is the Iranian factor. The Iranians always had better relations with the Talibani clan than with the dominant (since the 1990s, and especially after 2007) Barzani clan. There have been incidents in Kurdish Iraq over the last few years as Iranian efforts to aid the Talibani became more visible, and further deepened the divisions between the Barzani and Taliban factions. This influence was used to convince the Kurds that using their superior fighters to defend Kirkuk province was not a good idea, especially since the Barzanis had allowed the referendum to take place and now all the neighbors were threatening to blockade northern Iraq and starve out the Kurds. The Americans refused to take sides and apparently told the Kurds that this was a mess the Kurds had created and it was up to Kurds to fix it without making the situation worse.

https://strategypage.com/qnd/iraq/artic ... 71020.aspx

Someone´s take on the situation. :)
Read the longish article, covers a lot of ground. Note the Kurdish division.


Skimmed it for now, but may come back and read carefully in future . . . bit headachey at the moment. Thanks for posting.

Overall, with Russia, Turkey, Iran, Iraq, Kurds (at least two factions) all taking a keen interest, seems like a powder keg to me.

One could go a step further. Because Sunni Islam is the most numerous, and because Iran and Iraq are the only Shia majority countries in existence (Syria has, or had a sizeable fraction, but who knows at this point) and because Iran has obvious regional aspirations to extend their dominance in Iraq, I don't think it is to speculative to guess that Saudi Arabia, Egypt and other nation-states which regard Iran as an adversary and a threat will also take a keen interest = even more of a powder keg.

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