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PostPosted: Thu May 17, 2018 9:26 am 
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Ukrainian dolphins are more patriotic that some Ukrainian soldiers were....


To be fair, there was no war, the president was on a helicopter flying towards Russia and they had been issued orders not to fire under any circumstances.

No one knew shit, the only person with the power to authorize force response and recall previous orders was fleeing towards Russia and suddenly a huge force of special forces without insignia surround the garrison and you don't know what's going on except for your previous standing orders.

There's been no story on any potential ruses used by Russians but imagine if they pretended to be Ukrainians themselves or had some clever fake story by which to order the garrisons to stand down.

They did what they were allowed to do, such as parking vehicles by gate entrance etc. but of course this would not stop the Russians, only stall them while no orders were coming back to authorize defense or use of force.


And that's a bitchy situation for anyone. Russians *were* the historic friends and allies of Ukrainians. It's like US troops showed up in Canada, they would not assume that they were there to annex the whole place especially if they had some clever story with them such as "oh, there's been X and we need to evacuate you all now". They might not buy it but would they open fire?

It didn't help that huge portion of the officer cadre were either Russian or at least trained during Soviet years. In fact they had to clean up their army considerably to ensure that it would function as needed.

When Yanukovich suggested to use the military against Maidan protesters the army actually said they would not shoot their own citizens. There's that too.


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It's like US troops showed up in Canada, they would not assume that they were there to annex the whole place especially if they had some clever story with them such as "oh, there's been X and we need to evacuate you all now". They might not buy it but would they open fire?


That's preposterous.
The US would never do that.

Canada has befowled the US with the likes of Anne Murray, Celine Dion, Avril Lavigne, Nickelback, Justin Beiber, etc. on us, after all.





The vast majority of people who make up the population of Canada live in the southern part of the country, near the American border.
I'm not making that up. The Canadians freely admit to that.

Wouldn't you be worried if 90% of Russia's population was on the Finnish border?

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 Post subject: Re: What is Putin up to?
PostPosted: Thu May 17, 2018 12:24 pm 
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It is true that the Canadians are a duplicitous people; I've lived among them, and know their ways. It is wise to be cautious.

ADDIT: do you know what they actually have on their currency? A fucking MONARCH!

They literally think it is cool that their whole society is answerable to some elderly aristrocratic witch back in the U.K. . . . insidious . . .

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As soon as the Brits/Canadians get the upper hand they will haul the USS Chesapeake into Halifax...


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https://www.cnbc.com/2018/05/21/russian ... miles.html

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Putin claimed a new nuclear-powered missile had unlimited range — but it flew only 22 miles in its most successful test yet

    Russian President Vladimir Putin bragged that a new nuclear-powered missile had unlimited range, but it has yet to perform a successful test, according to sources with direct knowledge of a U.S. intelligence report on the weapons program.
    The cruise missile was tested four times between November 2017 and February 2018, each resulting in a crash.
    The U.S. assessed that the longest test flight lasted just more than two minutes, with the missile flying 22 miles before losing control and crashing.

Amanda Macias | @amanda_m_macias
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So the only people (at this point) under threat of this Russian wunderwaffe would be other Russians. ;-)

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Well, the Brits put their dissedents in jail ... the rookies shoot theirs ... :)

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A Russian journalist well known for his scathing criticism of the Kremlin was shot dead in his Kiev apartment Tuesday night, apparently in retaliation for his activism, according to Ukrainian national police.


https://www.nationalreview.com/news/russian-journalist-critical-of-putin-shot-dead-in-ukraine/

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Well, the Brits put their dissedents in jail ... the rookies shoot theirs ... :)

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A Russian journalist well known for his scathing criticism of the Kremlin was shot dead in his Kiev apartment Tuesday night, apparently in retaliation for his activism, according to Ukrainian national police.


https://www.nationalreview.com/news/russian-journalist-critical-of-putin-shot-dead-in-ukraine/

There is a separate thread on the Babchenko already: viewtopic.php?f=5&t=20402

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More on Putin's wunderwaffe:


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Did you guys know Putin has two daughters? One of them is married to a Dutchman and lives in Holland I think. She is trained as a physician I think, and is perhaps the more "black sheep" of the two. The other one is an "acrobat," who is also the head honcho of some multiple billion ruble Science and Technology advancement project! Yeah, not nepotistic at all!

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