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PostPosted: Thu May 17, 2018 9:26 am 
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Ukrainian dolphins are more patriotic that some Ukrainian soldiers were....


To be fair, there was no war, the president was on a helicopter flying towards Russia and they had been issued orders not to fire under any circumstances.

No one knew shit, the only person with the power to authorize force response and recall previous orders was fleeing towards Russia and suddenly a huge force of special forces without insignia surround the garrison and you don't know what's going on except for your previous standing orders.

There's been no story on any potential ruses used by Russians but imagine if they pretended to be Ukrainians themselves or had some clever fake story by which to order the garrisons to stand down.

They did what they were allowed to do, such as parking vehicles by gate entrance etc. but of course this would not stop the Russians, only stall them while no orders were coming back to authorize defense or use of force.


And that's a bitchy situation for anyone. Russians *were* the historic friends and allies of Ukrainians. It's like US troops showed up in Canada, they would not assume that they were there to annex the whole place especially if they had some clever story with them such as "oh, there's been X and we need to evacuate you all now". They might not buy it but would they open fire?

It didn't help that huge portion of the officer cadre were either Russian or at least trained during Soviet years. In fact they had to clean up their army considerably to ensure that it would function as needed.

When Yanukovich suggested to use the military against Maidan protesters the army actually said they would not shoot their own citizens. There's that too.


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It's like US troops showed up in Canada, they would not assume that they were there to annex the whole place especially if they had some clever story with them such as "oh, there's been X and we need to evacuate you all now". They might not buy it but would they open fire?


That's preposterous.
The US would never do that.

Canada has befowled the US with the likes of Anne Murray, Celine Dion, Avril Lavigne, Nickelback, Justin Beiber, etc. on us, after all.





The vast majority of people who make up the population of Canada live in the southern part of the country, near the American border.
I'm not making that up. The Canadians freely admit to that.

Wouldn't you be worried if 90% of Russia's population was on the Finnish border?

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 Post subject: Re: What is Putin up to?
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It is true that the Canadians are a duplicitous people; I've lived among them, and know their ways. It is wise to be cautious.

ADDIT: do you know what they actually have on their currency? A fucking MONARCH!

They literally think it is cool that their whole society is answerable to some elderly aristrocratic witch back in the U.K. . . . insidious . . .

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As soon as the Brits/Canadians get the upper hand they will haul the USS Chesapeake into Halifax...


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https://www.cnbc.com/2018/05/21/russian ... miles.html

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Putin claimed a new nuclear-powered missile had unlimited range — but it flew only 22 miles in its most successful test yet

    Russian President Vladimir Putin bragged that a new nuclear-powered missile had unlimited range, but it has yet to perform a successful test, according to sources with direct knowledge of a U.S. intelligence report on the weapons program.
    The cruise missile was tested four times between November 2017 and February 2018, each resulting in a crash.
    The U.S. assessed that the longest test flight lasted just more than two minutes, with the missile flying 22 miles before losing control and crashing.

Amanda Macias | @amanda_m_macias
Published 19 Hours Ago Updated 53 Mins Ago
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So the only people (at this point) under threat of this Russian wunderwaffe would be other Russians. ;-)

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Well, the Brits put their dissedents in jail ... the rookies shoot theirs ... :)

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A Russian journalist well known for his scathing criticism of the Kremlin was shot dead in his Kiev apartment Tuesday night, apparently in retaliation for his activism, according to Ukrainian national police.


https://www.nationalreview.com/news/russian-journalist-critical-of-putin-shot-dead-in-ukraine/

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Well, the Brits put their dissedents in jail ... the rookies shoot theirs ... :)

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A Russian journalist well known for his scathing criticism of the Kremlin was shot dead in his Kiev apartment Tuesday night, apparently in retaliation for his activism, according to Ukrainian national police.


https://www.nationalreview.com/news/russian-journalist-critical-of-putin-shot-dead-in-ukraine/

There is a separate thread on the Babchenko already: viewtopic.php?f=5&t=20402

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More on Putin's wunderwaffe:


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Did you guys know Putin has two daughters? One of them is married to a Dutchman and lives in Holland I think. She is trained as a physician I think, and is perhaps the more "black sheep" of the two. The other one is an "acrobat," who is also the head honcho of some multiple billion ruble Science and Technology advancement project! Yeah, not nepotistic at all!

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https://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/latest ... -monstrose

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Royal Navy scrambled to INTERCEPT two Russian warships heading towards Britain's coast

TWO RUSSIAN warships were followed by the Royal Navy's HMS Montrose as they passed close to Britain in the North Sea.


By Joshua Nevett / Published 25th June 2018

The Plymouth-based Type 23 frigate were last week scrambled to head-off the two Russian corvettes – Boikiy and Stoikiy – as they headed towards the English Channel.

As the Russian ships sailed northwards, they "dramatically cut their speed and slowly proceeded towards the north Norfolk coast" while the HMS Montrose watched on, the UK Ministry of Defence said.

“Royal Navy warships are always prepared to respond to tasking at short notice, so when the call came, Montrose was ready for action," said commanding officer of the Montrose Conor O'Neill said.

"The Royal Navy and Royal Air Force, with the support of our NATO allies, constantly monitor the seas and skies around the UK, and our operations are part of that 24/7 watch to ensure the UK stays safe and secure.”

The interception is the latest example of provocative behaviour by the Russian military off the coast of Britain.

Last month, the Royal Navy mobilised destroyer HMS Diamond and a Wildcat helicopter to monitor a Russian spy ship off the coast of Britain.

With the HMS Montrose in tow, the Russian ships entered the North Sea after leaving their base in the Baltic Sea at the end of last week.

RAF planes were also deployed to keep an eye on the Steregushchiy-class corvettes as they sailed close to the coastlines of Britain.

Montrose, the eighth of the Royal Navy’s 18 frigates, has help from the Maritime and Coastguard Agency in tracking the Russian ships.

The frigate was dispatched from Plymouth to “track the two Russian vessels as they manoeuvred” through the North Sea off the Danish and Dutch coasts.

Montrose is one of the frigates equipped with he UK's new state-of-art air defence system, Sea Ceptor.

The world-class missile system, codenamed Sea Ceptor, has officially entered service with the Royal Navy in a move intended to boost Britain’s sea defences across the world.

Sea Ceptor can launch missiles at a staggering mach 3 or 2,301mph – three times the speed of sound (767mph).

The £850million system will be able to protect Royal Navy warships from airborne threats, including hostile combat jets, helicopters and other missiles, the UK Ministry of Defence said.

The roll out of the Sea Ceptor comes as the Royal Navy is increasingly relied upon to defend British waters from Russian ships.

In January Royal Navy warship HMS Westminster was called to intercept four Russian vehicles lurking in British waters.

While in March a Russian warship was spotted in the English Channel just days after a diplomatic row erupted over the poisoning of former Russian agent Sergei Skripal and his daughter Yulia.

And in April a Russian frigate was intercepted by Royal Navy vessel HMS St Albans.

Defence Secretary Gavin Williamson said: "We will not hesitate in defending our waters or tolerate any form of aggression.

"Britain will never be intimidated when it comes to protecting our country, our people, and our national interests."




Photos and news video at above linked article

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