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http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/201 ... der-trump/

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Under Trump, Homeland Security actually gets around to securing the homeland

By Charles Hurt - The Washington Times - Tuesday, August 8, 2017

ANALYSIS/OPINION:

Are you tired of winning yet?

In the long march to remaking American greatness, President Trump has certainly attracted plenty of scorn and ridicule from all the predictable and boring corners over all the predictable and boring nonissues.

Russian roulette doesn’t really work without at least a single bullet. Without a bullet, the gun will never be found smoking. But — as ever among lazy leftists — ignorance of guns and how they work is celebrated as the highest virtue.

Yet amid the cacophony from the swamp, a few uncorrupted observers are starting to notice something shocking to them.

Despite all the Sturm und Drang from the crazy political press, President Trump is actually making real, concrete progress toward Making America Great Again. And, shocker of shockers, he appears to be that rare political actor who is determined to actually keep the promises he made to voters.

In no area is there more winning going on right now than Mr. Trump’s promised crackdown on immigration, both legal and illegal.

The Department of Homeland Security, which had become the Department of Homeland Extermination under President Obama, has encountered perhaps the greatest upheaval of any government department. Overnight, the whole structure spun 180 degrees away from a mission of basically being traffic cops ordered to direct illegals streaming across the border to the nearest place for getting papers, a cot with free food and welfare benefits.

Immediately, the department’s mission switched to stopping illegals at the border, detaining those who had crossed illegally and deporting those here illegally.


A funny thing happens when the Department of Homeland Security begins focusing on, well, securing the homeland.

Illegals quit coming over the border. Despite an unusual July spike in border-crossers, illegal immigration is still down nearly 70 percent since Mr. Trump took office. In July of last year alone, under Mr. Obama, illegal immigration was 85 percent higher than Mr. Trump’s entire presidency, according to one reliable estimate.


And this is before building one foot of his beloved wall.

Mr. Trump’s stance is the mirror opposite of Mr. Obama, who broadcast to the world a blinking neon “Welcome” sign that drew millions of illegals across brutal deserts — to be raped, enslaved and murdered. Literally, Mr. Obama and his leftist cohorts would not allow animals to be treated in this manner.

But illegals? Well, Mr. Obama and his leftist cohorts have a lot of laundry that needs folding and toilets that need cleaning, so what’s a few rapes and slaves?

Then the media gets ahold of taped conversations between Mr. Trump and Mexican President Enrique Pena Nieto in which our president warned the Mexican president to quit saying his country won’t pay for the wall.

“If you are going to say that Mexico is not going to pay for the wall, then I do not want to meet with you guys anymore because I cannot live with that,” Mr. Trump said.

“I have to have Mexico pay for the wall — I have to. I have been talking about it for a two-year period.”

Fake News Media somehow managed to mangle and distort these comments to mean that Mr. Trump did not intend to build the wall and make Mexico pay for it — the precise opposite of what he actually said.

It all just proves that the refugees wandering the swamp in a daze of Trump Derangement Syndrome will never give him credit for any of his successes — no matter how obvious they may be.

• Charles Hurt can be reached at churt@washingtontimes.com and on Twitter, @charleshurt.


Some people claim that President Obama was a great communicator---that he was good at "messaging".
From the above article we can glean 2 different messages:
President Obama's message to immigrants/refugees was "Everyone come on over!"
President Trump's message is "You are welcome but you must follow the law in doing so".
And the numbers are a reflection of those messages.

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 Post subject: Re: The Crusade continues - illegal immigration
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http://www.foxnews.com/us/2017/08/12/ti ... -list.html

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An MS-13 gang member on the FBI’s Ten Most Wanted list has been captured in Virginia after a four-year manhunt, authorities announced Saturday.

Walter Yovany Gomez, an illegal immigrant from Honduras, was arrested without incident Friday in Woodbridge, 20 miles south of Washington, as a result of a well-coordinated investigation and tips from the public, the FBI said.

"The apprehension of Walter Yovany Gomez is a prime example of the close coordination between the vigilant public and the hard working men and women of law enforcement," Timothy Gallagher, Special Agent in Charge of the FBI’s Newark Office, said. "Gomez will now stand trial for his alleged involvement in a brutal murder which took a young man from his family."

He faces extradition to New Jersey where he was indicted on a charge of committing a violent crime in aid of racketeering. The FBI added his name to its Ten Most Wanted list in April.

Gomez, who goes by the nickname “Cholo,” is accused of killing a fellow MS-13 gang member Julio Matute in Plainfield in 2011.

Prosecutors say that after a night of partying Gomez and an accomplice beat Matute with a baseball bat, stabbed him 17 times with a knife and then slit his throat with a screwdriver.

MS-13'S MOST WANTED: THE VIOLENT GANGSTERS THE FEDS WANT BEHIND BARS

Matute was killed on suspicion that he and members of a rival gang were getting too close.

When police tried to arrest Gomez he jumped out a second-story window and escaped.

Gomez' cohort, who was also an MS-13 member, was caught and convicted.

Gomez was featured in an Aug. 1 FoxNews.com story on the most violent MS-13 gang members being sought by the feds.

President Trump condemned MS-13 in an appearance in July on Long Island where 17 murders have been attributed to the gang since Jan. 1, 2016.

"They kidnap. They extort. They rape and they rob," Trump said. "They stomp on their victims. They beat them with clubs, they slash them with machetes, and they stab them with knives. They have transformed peaceful parks and beautiful quiet neighborhoods into bloodstained killing fields. They're animals."

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From watching this video it sounds as if:
A) the police officer pulled the car over for not having the front license plate properly displayed
B) the driver apparently does not have a valid drivers license
C) the driver is an illegal alien; an undocumented alien.
D) this lady does not understand the law or the Constitution

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Trump expected to rescind Obama Dreamer policy

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WASHINGTON, Aug 31 (Reuters) - U.S. President Donald Trump is expected to rescind an Obama-era policy that protects nearly 600,000 immigrants who entered the country illegally as children, but plans to let them stay until their work permits expire, a senior administration official said on Thursday.

Trump's decision could be announced as early as Friday but could also come next week, the official said.

Trump had pledged on the election campaign trail to scrap all of former President Barack Obama's executive orders on immigration, including the Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals, or "Dreamers," program.

What to do about the so-called Dreamers has been actively debated within the White House and Trump administration. One senior administration official described the situation as a "tug of war" between factions in favor of the move and those opposed. Officials, believing the DACA program to be ultimately unconstitutional, want Congress to impose a legislative fix for the Dreamers, two officials said.

U.S. Representative Steny Hoyer of Maryland, the No. 2 Democrat in the House of Representatives, released a statement expressing concern about reports that Trump may terminate the program, saying this would be “devastating” to many Dreamers.

“In the absence of Congress enacting bipartisan immigration reform, which must remain our goal, the President ought to continue providing peace of mind to DREAMers that they need not live in fear of being sent away from the only home many of them have ever known,” Hoyer said.

(Reporting by Steve Holland and Jeff Mason; Editing by Mohammad Zargham and Tom Brown)


What an Executive Order gives, another Executive Order can take away...

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Trump expected to rescind Obama Dreamer policy

AOL.COM 6 hrs ago

WASHINGTON, Aug 31 (Reuters) - U.S. President Donald Trump is expected to rescind an Obama-era policy that protects nearly 600,000 immigrants who entered the country illegally as children, but plans to let them stay until their work permits expire, a senior administration official said on Thursday.

Trump's decision could be announced as early as Friday but could also come next week, the official said.

Trump had pledged on the election campaign trail to scrap all of former President Barack Obama's executive orders on immigration, including the Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals, or "Dreamers," program.

What to do about the so-called Dreamers has been actively debated within the White House and Trump administration. One senior administration official described the situation as a "tug of war" between factions in favor of the move and those opposed. Officials, believing the DACA program to be ultimately unconstitutional, want Congress to impose a legislative fix for the Dreamers, two officials said.

U.S. Representative Steny Hoyer of Maryland, the No. 2 Democrat in the House of Representatives, released a statement expressing concern about reports that Trump may terminate the program, saying this would be “devastating” to many Dreamers.

“In the absence of Congress enacting bipartisan immigration reform, which must remain our goal, the President ought to continue providing peace of mind to DREAMers that they need not live in fear of being sent away from the only home many of them have ever known,” Hoyer said.

(Reporting by Steve Holland and Jeff Mason; Editing by Mohammad Zargham and Tom Brown)


What an Executive Order gives, another Executive Order can take away...




I can almost hear the wailing already.

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 Post subject: Re: The Crusade continues - illegal immigration
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Updated 5:06 PM ET, Fri September 1, 2017

(CNN)House Speaker Paul Ryan on Friday gave a major boost to legislative efforts to preserve protections for young undocumented immigrants -- and urged President Donald Trump to not tear up the program.

Trump told reporters Friday he was still mulling the decision. The White House press secretary said a decision would be announced Tuesday.

Responding to a question about Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals, or DACA, on his hometown radio station WCLO in Janesville, Wisconsin, Ryan said Congress was working on a legislative fix to preserve the program.
"I actually don't think he should do that," Ryan said of Trump's consideration of terminating the program. "I believe that this is something that Congress has to fix."


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Were it up to me I would:
---allow the existing DACA terms to expire with no deportations of those people during the existing term
---No further DACA renewals
---No further DACA approvals
---During this interim period the Dreamers should be allowed to apply for any existing immigration program that they might be eligible for, (but receive no out of the ordinary preferences)
---If a Dreamer's existing term expires and they have not qualified for any other sort of existing program, then they should either leave, or be subject to deportation

If Nero is not happy with my proposed program then he can sponsor the Dreamers for immigration to Finland.

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August 28, 2017: A California resident has pled guilty to building a smuggling tunnel across the Mexico-U.S. border. Habib Mujica, a resident of Calexico, California, was arrested in May of this year after returning from Mexico. He had spent six years in prison in Mexico for smuggling weapons. U.S. security personnel discovered his tunnel in 2011. He could spend another 40 years in prison.

August 26, 2017: U.S. authorities detained 30 illegal migrants who tried to enter the U.S, through a tunnel in San Diego. Most (23) of the people arrested were Chinese nationals. The other seven were citizens of Mexico.

https://www.strategypage.com/qnd/mexico ... 70901.aspx


Weapons smugglers named "Habib" digging smuggling tunnels across the border and Chinese nationals sneaking through tunnels.

The border must be secured and if we need to build a double row fence from the Pacific to the Atlantic across the southern border then so be it.

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By Tal Kopan and Jim Acosta, CNN
Updated 5:06 PM ET, Fri September 1, 2017

(CNN)House Speaker Paul Ryan on Friday gave a major boost to legislative efforts to preserve protections for young undocumented immigrants -- and urged President Donald Trump to not tear up the program.

Trump told reporters Friday he was still mulling the decision. The White House press secretary said a decision would be announced Tuesday.

Responding to a question about Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals, or DACA, on his hometown radio station WCLO in Janesville, Wisconsin, Ryan said Congress was working on a legislative fix to preserve the program.
"I actually don't think he should do that," Ryan said of Trump's consideration of terminating the program. "I believe that this is something that Congress has to fix."


Continued at above link.

Were it up to me I would:
---allow the existing DACA terms to expire with no deportations of those people during the existing term
---No further DACA renewals
---No further DACA approvals
---During this interim period the Dreamers should be allowed to apply for any existing immigration program that they might be eligible for, (but receive no out of the ordinary preferences)
---If a Dreamer's existing term expires and they have not qualified for any other sort of existing program, then they should either leave, or be subject to deportation

If Nero is not happy with my proposed program then he can sponsor the Dreamers for immigration to Finland.



Looks like a sound suggestion to me.

They should apply for immigration status.. just like any other legal immigrants.

The reason we've had such huge illegal immigrant problems is because these politicians have been either ignoring it, or outright flouting the laws, for far too long. It only encourages more illegal immigration over time, especially when whole swaths of foreigners who entered our country illegally are given blanket citizenship for doing so; which is exactly what DACA did. What does that teach others thinking of doing the same? Hmm?

Time to shut the illegal back door. They should all go through proper legal channels from now on. No more free rides for foreign citizens breaking our laws.

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http://www.politico.com/story/2017/09/0 ... nts-242301

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President Donald Trump has decided to end the Obama-era program that grants work permits to undocumented immigrants who arrived in the country as children, according to two sources familiar with his thinking. Senior White House aides huddled Sunday afternoon to discuss the rollout of a decision likely to ignite a political firestorm — and fulfill one of the president’s core campaign promises.

The administration’s deliberations on the issue have been fluid and fast moving, and the president has faced strong warnings from members of his own party not to scrap the program.


Trump has wrestled for months with whether to do away with the Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals, known as DACA. But conversations with Attorney General Jeff Sessions, who argued that Congress — rather than the executive branch — is responsible for writing immigration law, helped persuade the president to terminate the program and kick the issue to Congress, the two sources said.

In a nod to reservations held by many lawmakers, the White House plans to delay the enforcement of the president’s decision for six months, giving Congress a window to act, according to one White House official. But a senior White House aide said that chief of staff John Kelly, who has been running the West Wing policy process on the issue, “thinks Congress should’ve gotten its act together a lot longer ago.”


This actually sounds like a good plan.
End Obama's DACA program, which IMHO was questionable to begin with.
Give Congress 6 months to "fix" things, if that is what they want to do.

Trump fulfills his campaign promise and forces Congress to shit or get off the pot.

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