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 Post subject: Western strikes against Syria
PostPosted: Tue Aug 27, 2013 11:06 am 
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Launching this as a separate thread from the other Egypt/Syria thread.

The purpose of this thread is to deal with possible military strikes by western powers against Syria.

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/a ... s-damascus

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Monday 26 August 2013 14.51 EDT

Syria crisis: warplanes spotted in Cyprus as tensions rise in Damascus
Signs of advanced readiness at likely hub of air campaign as UN inspection team comes under fire near site of alleged chemical attack

Warplanes and military transporters have begun arriving at Britain's Akrotiri airbase on Cyprus, less than 100 miles from the Syrian coast, in a sign of increasing preparations for a military strike against the Assad regime in Syria.

Two commercial pilots who regularly fly from Larnaca on Monday told the Guardian that they had seen C-130 transport planes from their cockpit windows as well as small formations of fighter jets on their radar screens, which they believe had flown from Europe.

Residents near the British airfield, a sovereign base since 1960, also say activity there has been much higher than normal over the past 48 hours.

If an order to attack targets in Syria is given, Cyprus is likely to be a hub of the air campaign. The arrival of warplanes suggests that advanced readiness – at the very least – has been ordered by Whitehall as David Cameron, Barack Obama and European leaders step up their rhetoric against Bashar al-Assad, whose armed forces they accuse of carrying out the chemical weapons attack last Wednesday that killed many hundreds in eastern Damascus.

The standoff between Syria and the west intensified when a UN inspection team came under sniper fire as it approached the site of the suspected chemical weapons attack.


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PostPosted: Tue Aug 27, 2013 11:09 am 
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http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/RAF_Akrotiri

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RAF Akrotiri (IATA: AKT, ICAO: LCRA) is a large Royal Air Force station, on the Mediterranean island of Cyprus. It is located in the Western Sovereign Base Area, one of two areas which comprise Akrotiri and Dhekelia, a British Overseas Territory, administered as a Sovereign Base Area. It is one of the few full-scale RAF stations left outside the United Kingdom.

The station commander is double-hatted and is also the officer commanding the Akrotiri or Western Sovereign Base Area, reporting to the commander of British Forces Cyprus who is also the Administrator.



Additional information regarding this base and its history at above link.

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Wonder how long it will take Syria to shoot down their first F-35?

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Crap.

What happened to the sequester? Are we going to close down the WH tours again?

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 Post subject: Re: Western strikes against Syria
PostPosted: Tue Aug 27, 2013 11:51 am 
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mdiehl wrote:
Wonder how long it will take Syria to shoot down their first F-35?


Well, unless the Syrian Air Force or anti-aircraft forces are able to reach the continental United States to strike against one of the US F-35 test/training squadrons, I would say 2015 at the absolute earliest.

https://www.f35.com/news/detail/departm ... l-services

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DoD Announces Services’ F-35 IOC Dates
May 31, 2013
Air Force, Marine Corps and Navy announce their F-35 Initial Operating Capability dates.

Executive Summary of the Department of Defense F-35 Initial Operational Capability Report

Air Force F-35A initial operational capability (IOC) shall be declared when the first operational squadron is equipped with 12-24 aircraft, and Airmen are trained, manned, and equipped to conduct basic Close Air Support (CAS), Interdiction, and limited Suppression and Destruction of Enemy Air Defense (SEAD/DEAD) operations in a contested environment. Based on the current F-35 Joint Program Office (JPO) schedule, the F-35A will reach the IOC milestone between August 2016 (Objective) and December 2016 (Threshold). Should capability delivery experience changes or delays, this estimate will be revised appropriately.

Marine Corps F-35B IOC shall be declared when the first operational squadron is equipped with 10-16 aircraft, and US Marines are trained, manned, and equipped to conduct CAS, Offensive and Defensive Counter Air, Air Interdiction, Assault Support Escort, and Armed Reconnaissance in concert with Marine Air Ground Task Force resources and capabilities. Based on the current F-35 JPO schedule, the F-35B will reach the IOC milestone between July 2015 (Objective) and December 2015 (Threshold). Should capability delivery experience changes or delays, this estimate will be revised appropriately.

Navy F-35C IOC shall be declared when the first operational squadron is equipped with 10 aircraft, and Navy personnel are trained, manned and equipped to conduct assigned missions. Based on the current F-35 JPO schedule, the F-35C will reach the IOC milestone between August 2018 (Objective) and February 2019 (Threshold). Should capability delivery experience changes or delays, this estimate will be revised appropriately.

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Lockheed Martin Statement on Department of Defense F-35 IOC Date Announcement

"We appreciate the confidence in the F-35 program expressed by the Air Force, Marine Corps and Navy with the announcement of their Initial Operating Capability (IOC) dates today. Our top priority is to continue to execute our plan to support these IOC dates starting with the Marine Corps in December 2015. Lockheed Martin is committed to cost effectively delivering the F-35s unprecedented 5th generation capabilities to the warfighter."


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I hope to Hell we don't end up with any more captured pilot pictures like we had in GW1.

They have mobile S-300 batteries.

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jack t ripper wrote:
I hope to Hell we don't end up with any more captured pilot pictures like we had in GW1.

They have mobile S-300 batteries.

I had previously read that the S-300s were bought from Russia and that Russia had agreed to deploy them to Syria but I don't remember whether the S300s had been delivered and made operational yet.

I thought there were conflicting reports of that.

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I am certain we have the means to negate the s-300, and I mean negate. But will they USE it?

We should stay out of Syria. No Muslim will thank us for any help we give them,on either side.

Let them kill each other

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http://rt.com/news/syria-s-300-delay-russia-277/

If appears that the S-300s won't be delivered to Syria until mid-2014.

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You guys are jumping the gun, let's make sure all the boxes are checked first...

1. "Give the Inspectors a Chance"®
2. POTUS to lecture UN
3. Joint Resolution from Congress
4. UN Security Council Resolution
5. Endless Inspections
6. Book Tours by Former Inspectors
7. Child Sex Allegations by Former Inspectors
8. Back Stabbing by Former Allies
9. Weak Coalition of the Willing
10. Final Ultimatum
11. More Final Ultimatums
12. Underwhelming Force
13. Exaggerated Civilian Casualties
14. Endless Forum Bitching
15. Lame Self-Serving Anti-War Protests
16. Dictator Swinging from a Rope

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