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"Furthermore, soda taxes are regressive, hurting low-income earners the most. Philadelphia's experience serves as a cautionary tale for other areas weighing similar beverage taxes," the group said.


That's the demographic they were wanting to "help". Low income and the poor generally have higher rates of obesity and probably consume more sugary drinks than other classes.

So shut up and hand over those Cokes. We're the government and we're trying to help you from yourself, dammit!

And if we create a soft drink black market as a result...

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Poindexter wrote:
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"Furthermore, soda taxes are regressive, hurting low-income earners the most. Philadelphia's experience serves as a cautionary tale for other areas weighing similar beverage taxes," the group said.


That's the demographic they were wanting to "help". Low income and the poor generally have higher rates of obesity and probably consume more sugary drinks than other classes.

So shut up and hand over those Cokes. We're the government and we're trying to help you from yourself, dammit!

And if we create a soft drink black market as a result...


You'll have people runnng home brewed versions of Pepsi in the General Lee, driving away from the inept Philadelphia revenooers. ;-)

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Stupid poor people deserve to be taxed. If they were smart, they would drink Chardonnay.

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Stupid poor people deserve to be taxed. If they were smart, they would drink Chardonnay.

Chardonnay is way overrated, I prefer pinot gris, pinot grigio, riesling or gewürztraminer over chardonnay.

Cin cin.

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Wine is vile.

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Wine is vile.

In vino veritas. ;)

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Partial to French & Italian reds, the Bickendorf REWE market carries a super-tasty Primitivo (Sicilian IIRC) @8.99€ , they got that stuff in "organic" as well for an extra 3, no difference IMO.

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Yesterday in Cook County (Chicago and near suburbs):

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/won ... 02ab800561

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Why Chicago’s soda tax fizzled after two months — and what it means for the anti-soda movement



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But there were early signs that the soda tax might not raise the revenue advocates hoped, and certainly not on the intended schedule. The policy’s rollout was dogged by implementation errors and legal challenges.

An early version of the tax, for instance, was aimed at distributors, who would then pass the cost on to consumers. But the county was forced to revise that plan when it realized that it would make the soda tax subject to an additional sales tax, which is illegal in Illinois.

Shortly after that, the county proposed making the tax a line item at the point of sale, much like sales taxes are assessed currently. But local governments are not allowed to tax transactions that are paid for using federal nutrition benefits, which meant the county had to exempt more than 870,000 people from paying the tax — a last-minute change that dented revenue expectations.


This morning:

http://www.chicagotribune.com/business/ ... story.html

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Daniel Stein estimates Cook County’s sweetened beverage tax has cost his vending machine company about $75,000 so far, a figure that doesn’t even include lost sales.

The Dec. 1 repeal of the penny-per-ounce tax on sugar and artificially sweetened beverages likely will cost him more before it’s all over. He’ll again have to send technicians to his 850 or so vending machines in Cook County to adjust the price of products. But Stein feels only happiness and relief that the tax that’s consumed his life for months will soon go away.


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At Fairplay Foods in suburban Worth, sweetened beverage sales were down about 47 percent, said Rosie Regas, co-owner of the independent chain. Fairplay’s three Chicago stores saw a smaller but still significant drop in sweetened drink sales of around 27 percent.

Regas said she didn’t blame customers for shopping elsewhere; she did the same, driving from her home in Orland Park into Will County to avoid the tax.


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Costco’s nine Cook County locations saw a 34 percent decline in sales of beverages affected by the tax, said John McKay, chief operating officer of Costco’s northern division.

The chain saw a corresponding increase of 38 percent in sales of sweetened beverages in its nine stores just outside Cook County, McKay said.


So overall, soda sales actually went UP, its just the soda drinkers had to drive to the next county to purchase them.

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http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/loca ... story.html

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The Cook County Board finished the job on Wednesday and repealed the controversial pop tax, which means soda drinkers won’t have to pay it come Dec. 1.

The repeal was a foregone conclusion after the board’s Finance Committee voted 15-1 on Tuesday, signaling the pop tax would be scrapped after just four months.

The Wednesday voice vote — two commissioners voted no — came despite a defiant 2018 budget address last week by Board President Toni Preckwinkle, who maintained the $200 million a year she expected the pop tax to raise was needed to avoid 11 percent across-the-board cuts. She warned of reductions in critical public health and criminal justice programs.


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Now that repeal is final, Preckwinkle, other countywide elected and appointed officials and commissioners will have to start working on cutting $200 million from Preckwinkle’s proposed $5.4 billion spending plan for next year. They have until Nov. 30 to approve a budget.



What a fustercluck... :lol: :lol: :lol:

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 Post subject: Re: Get Your Hands Off My Soda!
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What a fustercluck... :lol: :lol: :lol:



Democrat top-down societal control in usual operating excellence, Comrade. ;)

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If only they could tax something people could not avoid consuming.... like air. Al Gore is on it.

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