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 Post subject: 7 MPs leave Labour
PostPosted: Mon Feb 18, 2019 10:06 am 
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... Seven MPs have resigned from the Labour Party in protest at Jeremy Corbyn's approach to Brexit and anti-Semitism.

They are: Chuka Umunna, Luciana Berger, Chris Leslie, Angela Smith, Mike Gapes, Gavin Shuker and Ann Coffey.

Ms Berger said Labour had become institutionally anti-Semitic and she was "embarrassed and ashamed" to stay.

Mr Corbyn said he was "disappointed" ...



https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-47278902


I find it interesting they put anti-semitism at the top of their list !!??

I've been resigned to the idea that most brits hate hebes ... and that is nothing new ... but apparently not all do !!

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 Post subject: Re: 7 MPs leave Labour
PostPosted: Mon Feb 18, 2019 3:04 pm 
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... Seven MPs have resigned from the Labour Party in protest at Jeremy Corbyn's approach to Brexit and anti-Semitism.

They are: Chuka Umunna, Luciana Berger, Chris Leslie, Angela Smith, Mike Gapes, Gavin Shuker and Ann Coffey.

Ms Berger said Labour had become institutionally anti-Semitic and she was "embarrassed and ashamed" to stay.

Mr Corbyn said he was "disappointed" ...



https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-47278902


I find it interesting they put anti-semitism at the top of their list !!??

I've been resigned to the idea that most brits hate hebes ... and that is nothing new ... but apparently not all do !!


"MOST" Brits? I never had THAT impression. Not even "MOST" French or Germans in fact . . .

My ballpark guesstimate for the proportion of the over 25 pop who are actual closet Jew haters:
U.S.: 5%
Czech Republic: 6%
Norway: 9%
U.K.: 11%
Sweden: 12%
France: 14%
Italy: 15%
Austria: 17%
Spain: 17%
Germany: 19%
Switzerland: 25%
Netherlands: 29%
Finland: 30%
. . .
Tunisa: 63%
Morocco: 65%
Algeria: 66%
Jordan: 67%
Libya: 69%
Iraq: 73%
Syria (before all hell broke loose): 75%
Egypt: 78%
KSA: 85%
Pakistan: 87%
Iran: 90%
. . .
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 Post subject: Re: 7 MPs leave Labour
PostPosted: Tue Feb 19, 2019 8:18 am 
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My ballpark guesstimate for the proportion of the over 25 pop who are actual closet Jew haters:
U.S.: 5%
Czech Republic: 6%
Norway: 9%
U.K.: 11%
Sweden: 12%
France: 14%
Italy: 15%
Austria: 17%
Spain: 17%
Germany: 19%
Switzerland: 25%
Netherlands: 29%
Finland: 30%
. . .
Tunisa: 63%
Morocco: 65%
Algeria: 66%
Jordan: 67%
Libya: 69%
Iraq: 73%
Syria (before all hell broke loose): 75%
Egypt: 78%
KSA: 85%
Pakistan: 87%
Iran: 90%
. . .
???

Your pull numbers from your anus. ;)

When I need Antisemitism data, I use the ADL numbers. :mrgreen:

You should too.

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 Post subject: Re: 7 MPs leave Labour
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Lemme guess! Nero is convinced that Finland is a Pro-Hebrew Utopia!?

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 Post subject: Re: 7 MPs leave Labour
PostPosted: Tue Feb 19, 2019 1:31 pm 
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Lemme guess! Nero is convinced that Finland is a Pro-Hebrew Utopia!?

:lol:

Just that your numbers are pulled out of your arse. ;)

No hard feelings.

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 Post subject: Re: 7 MPs leave Labour
PostPosted: Tue Feb 19, 2019 11:02 pm 
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Make that 8 ...

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... An eighth MP with the British Labour Party on Tuesday quit the party, citing a "culture of anti-Jewish racism," the BBC reported.

The move by Joan Ryan came a day after a group of seven Labour lawmakers, including British-Jewish MP Luciana Berger, left the party to form the Independent Group in Parliament ...

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Make that 8 ...

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... An eighth MP with the British Labour Party on Tuesday quit the party, citing a "culture of anti-Jewish racism," the BBC reported.

The move by Joan Ryan came a day after a group of seven Labour lawmakers, including British-Jewish MP Luciana Berger, left the party to form the Independent Group in Parliament ...


I really wish people would use proper English when they talk about this stuff. Even applying the specious "Black/White/Yellow/Red" nomenclature widely regarded among lay persons and the U.S. government as "racial types," "Jews" are not a "race." They are an ethnic group, a religious group, a political group, a social group, a cultural group. Same with Muslims, or Christians or Buddhists!

Anti-Jewish bigotry. Check.
Anti-Jewish bias. Check.
Anti-Jewish discrimination. Check

Hell, even "Black/White/Yellow/Red" are not races in any meaningful biological sense, which is the assumption on which the underlying typologies rest. But calling an ethnic group like the Hebes a "race" doesn't even make that higher level error of invoking racial typologies in the first place. Calling Jews a "race" doesn't even exhibit internal consistency with respect to the fallacious "Black/White/Yellow/Red" typology as it is referring to a group which doesn't even "count" as a "race" according to the fallacious "Black/White/Yellow/Red" typology!

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3 tories have now joined the breakaway group ...

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... Three Tory MPs have resigned from the party to join an independent group, set up by former Labour MPs.

Anna Soubry, Sarah Wollaston and Heidi Allen wrote a joint letter to Theresa May to confirm their departure ...

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When Carswell and Reckless defected to UKIP they ran by elections, faced their electorates, and won.

Soubry, Allen and especially Wollaston don't look to be doing that. So it's hard to see any possible interpretation makes out they are anything other than antidemocratic scum.

Wollaston especially wouldn't have a chance in Eurosceptic Totnes, whose constituents she lied to when she was selected.

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 Post subject: Re: 7 MPs leave Labour
PostPosted: Wed Feb 20, 2019 5:46 pm 
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Drip ... drip ... drip.

And this a just a start.

There are values and and values. Some value their personal benefit or the benefit of the party over the benefit of the country. Some don't.



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