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 Post subject: Re: Brain tumour
PostPosted: Sun Sep 30, 2018 8:51 pm 
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Back in the 1970's my grandfather had Esophageal cancer.
He underwent surgery--they removed part of his esophagus, 'lifted" his stomach, and replaced the removed portion of the esophagus with a portion of his intestine.
He underwent chemo, the cancer disappeared, but the chemo took a terrible toll on him (he had lost alot of weight, his hair, and his taste buds/appetite had been all but ruined).
About 6 months to a year later he went in for a follow up checkup.
The cancer had returned and had spread to his lymph nodes---not a good thing.
Doctors recommended that he undergo chemo again.
My grandfather refused to undergo chemo again. He didn't want to suffer through the chemo again. (My grandfather could be a very stubborn man when he wanted to).

(now this is where it gets strange)
Grandfather had read about some alternate medicine treatment in some German herbal/natural cure magazine.
I don't recall the exact 'remedy' but it was something like orally ingesting a set dosage of distilled petroleum--I think kerosene)
I found a couple web articles regarding this:
https://skeptics.stackexchange.com/ques ... ure-cancer
https://www.steadyhealth.com/articles/d ... for-cancer

My grandfather got the distilled petroleum through the mail from somewhere in Germany, and took the "dosage".
Some months later he went back to his doctor for a follow up visit, they ran some tests---the cancer that had come back so aggressively had disappeared.

NOW, I AM IN NO WAY ADVOCATING THIS AS A TREATMENT/CURE, etc.

What some in our family think happened was that my grandfather was confident that this 'remedy' would work....in his mind it was a 'cure', and his mind 'willed' the cancer away.
The doctors had no explanation for why the cancer receded.

So what exactly 'cured him?
Was it the distilled petroleum?
Was it the power of his mind?
Was it divine intervention?

Damned if I know.

My grandfather lived another 8 years or so (not of it all pleasant--towards the end his bodily functions started to give up on him and his memory also started to go).

The purpose of my post here is to point out that the mind is a powerful thing.
Try to have a positive outlook.
Stick to your treatment (whatever form that might be).

Can the mind "cure" an illness like cancer?
Who knows?

But there have been plenty of people who 'gave up', who had a negative mindset on their situation, and their situation quickly deteriorated.

I read many years ago that Hydrogen Peroxide will cure most types of cancer. I never read any follow-ups. Since it costs about 25 cents per gallon I dont imagine the medical profession was too crazy about that.

Like your grandfather I will refuse any chemo if ever diagnosed.

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 Post subject: Re: Brain tumour
PostPosted: Sun Sep 30, 2018 10:53 pm 
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Like your grandfather I will refuse any chemo if ever diagnosed.


While I am not a medical expert, I do believe that the chemo treatments that are available today are more advanced and probably more effective than what was available in the 1970s when my grandfather had cancer.

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 Post subject: Re: Brain tumour
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Ning's sister came down with cancer (2009?), she went through the whole process (Chemo and all) paid for by Thai government. They are poor.

She's OK now, not strong but OK.

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 Post subject: Re: Brain tumour
PostPosted: Fri Oct 05, 2018 6:06 am 
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Got some more data now.

Gamma ray knife treatment on the bit lodged in the brain, they think it has a good success rate, the aim is to permanently resolve the problem. Going in for that very soon, 1-2 weeks was mentioned.

The kidney is coming out in about six weeks, after the brain stuff is sorted. As its riddled it wont be keyhole, they got to take it carefully out of the side, big scar, eight weeks recovery.

No chemo as apparently it doesnt work on kidney cancer very well. There's an equivalent but it won't be until the kidney is gone.

Then, of course, Russian roulette. They say they can't see any more cancers on the scans but of course I could be riddled with microscopic cancers and they have no way to know. All they can do is deal with it as they pop up, and there will be scans and stuff to look for it. They say it almost certainly will pop up - this is one of the more aggressive cancers - though of course, no guarantees, and what happens then is just in the lap of the gods, where it happens, etc. Prognosis pretty shit. "We have people who can help you get your affairs in order.". Great!

Still on drugs to manage symptoms - which are minor. Back to work next week. Life goes on. For now.

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 Post subject: Re: Brain tumour
PostPosted: Fri Oct 05, 2018 8:10 am 
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EUBanana wrote:
Got some more data now.

Gamma ray knife treatment on the bit lodged in the brain, they think it has a good success rate, the aim is to permanently resolve the problem. Going in for that very soon, 1-2 weeks was mentioned.

The kidney is coming out in about six weeks, after the brain stuff is sorted. As its riddled it wont be keyhole, they got to take it carefully out of the side, big scar, eight weeks recovery.

No chemo as apparently it doesnt work on kidney cancer very well. There's an equivalent but it won't be until the kidney is gone.

Then, of course, Russian roulette. They say they can't see any more cancers on the scans but of course I could be riddled with microscopic cancers and they have no way to know. All they can do is deal with it as they pop up, and there will be scans and stuff to look for it. They say it almost certainly will pop up - this is one of the more aggressive cancers - though of course, no guarantees, and what happens then is just in the lap of the gods, where it happens, etc. Prognosis pretty shit. "We have people who can help you get your affairs in order.". Great!

Still on drugs to manage symptoms - which are minor. Back to work next week. Life goes on. For now.

So no dead sentence, good.

All the best luck and the best medics for you. ;)

Take care.

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 Post subject: Re: Brain tumour
PostPosted: Fri Oct 05, 2018 10:35 am 
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EUBanana wrote:
Got some more data now.

Gamma ray knife treatment on the bit lodged in the brain, they think it has a good success rate, the aim is to permanently resolve the problem. Going in for that very soon, 1-2 weeks was mentioned.

The kidney is coming out in about six weeks, after the brain stuff is sorted. As its riddled it wont be keyhole, they got to take it carefully out of the side, big scar, eight weeks recovery.

No chemo as apparently it doesnt work on kidney cancer very well. There's an equivalent but it won't be until the kidney is gone.

Then, of course, Russian roulette. They say they can't see any more cancers on the scans but of course I could be riddled with microscopic cancers and they have no way to know. All they can do is deal with it as they pop up, and there will be scans and stuff to look for it. They say it almost certainly will pop up - this is one of the more aggressive cancers - though of course, no guarantees, and what happens then is just in the lap of the gods, where it happens, etc. Prognosis pretty shit. "We have people who can help you get your affairs in order.". Great!

Still on drugs to manage symptoms - which are minor. Back to work next week. Life goes on. For now.


Your bravery and humanity is awe inspiring.

Seems corny but . . .

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 Post subject: Re: Brain tumour
PostPosted: Fri Oct 05, 2018 12:56 pm 
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Man there’s nothing special about me. There’s not even any real hardship atm. I’m sure several people on here have been through worse.

Just unpleasant knowledge. Which nobody has a crystal ball for anyway... any one of us could drop dead tomorrow.

And what choice does anybody have in the end? When there’s no alternative it’s pretty easy to take a course of action. Everybody who died in WW1 managed that pretty easy.... you do what you gotta do. Shit happens. People don’t just roll over and die in a ditch, that’s not human nature. Even my pet guinea pigs don’t give up that easy when they are ill.

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You are setting a high standard, EUBanana.

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