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Britain is not Racist

#1 Post by chijohnaok » Thu Oct 26, 2017 4:26 pm

An installment from Sargon of Akkad:

The American Republic will endure until the day Congress discovers that it can bribe the public with the public’s money.
- misattributed to Alexis De Tocqueville

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#2 Post by Anthropoid » Thu Oct 26, 2017 6:22 pm

It thinks racism is not learned? That means it really IS a racist.

Claiming that a type of people are intrinsically biologically inferior in some way is the essence of racism.

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#3 Post by abradley » Thu Oct 26, 2017 8:58 pm

IMO Humans are racists and the more primitive a culture we're raised in the more racist we are.
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#4 Post by Anthropoid » Fri Oct 27, 2017 12:41 am

Claiming that all humans are "racist" isn't racist. But claiming that a certain type of people are racist (while others are not) IS racist.

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#5 Post by jack t ripper » Fri Oct 27, 2017 5:02 pm

Generalizing about humans is speciesist. :lol: What if I said "Neanderthals have thick brow ridges"?
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#6 Post by Anthropoid » Fri Oct 27, 2017 5:25 pm

jack t ripper wrote:Generalizing about humans is speciesist. :lol: What if I said "Neanderthals have thick brow ridges"?
It is actually a species-diagnostic characteristic so you'd be completely accurate!

It may be that humans ARE (as a species) prone to racism. In-group / Out-group dynamics seem to be quite tightly "written" into whatever fixed action patterns shape how we learn about our cultures as little tots. So far no one has been able to create an artificial society that is completely devoid of any in-group / out-group discrimination.

So I'd say, "Humans are racist" is not a terrible generalization. We will probably never really have the sufficient experimental data as it is obviously completely unethical! :P

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#7 Post by abradley » Fri Oct 27, 2017 9:57 pm

jack t ripper wrote:Generalizing about humans is speciesist. :lol: What if I said "Neanderthals have thick brow ridges"?
First there's this:
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October 21, 2017
Innate Fears: Even Babies Get Stressed When They See Spiders And Snakes
Dawn Papple

Don’t feel bad if you’re afraid of snakes and spiders. As it turns out, fear of snakes and spiders is innately human. In fact, even babies get stressed when they see spiders and snakes. Researchers at the Max Planck Institute for Human Cognitive and Brain Sciences say that babies show distinct signs of fear when they see spiders or snakes. This fear is measurable, and babies have these feelings long before they could have learned it from other people, they say.
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https://www.inquisitr.com/4556275/babie ... nd-snakes/
Plus my experience with Thai babies/children, 90% 0f the time they're fearful of me, a stranger, especislly if I have my beard.

Then there's bunches of stuff I've read about primitive tribes and how they're hesitant about letting lone strangers near their tribe.

And there's much the same in 'Culloden by John Prebble' where he describes how anybody banished by his clan would be shunned by all others even if they didn't know of his banishment, he was alone, what was wrong with him. Have read much the same for US Indian tribes.

Does this prove my view, no.

But I still believe humans are naturally racists and learn not to be (or even more raciest) depending on their upbringing.
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#8 Post by jack t ripper » Sat Oct 28, 2017 11:35 am

Sometimes I literally jump when I see a serpentine shape but there are rattlers all over the place here. Once I can see it's a gopher snake I am not afraid but that first half a second the signal comes from the brainstem.
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#9 Post by jwilkerson » Sun Oct 29, 2017 7:40 pm

I think it was "Territorial Imperative" that gave me the concept that "The folks on the other side of the hill are not us ! They might be bad!"

And for me, that is the origin of "racist" ... the idea that the people on the other side of the hill are DIFFERENT. Think back to the 19th Century ... YourOhs referred to "The English Race" and "The French Race" and so on ... different folks were a different RACE !!!

They talked funny, ate funny food, had funny beliefs, and so on.

So yes, we are all "racist" in that sense.
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