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Re: EU and Brexit

#2531 Post by Anthropoid » Fri Jan 10, 2020 9:57 pm

Yep, Chlorination is the predominant means of water disinfection in the U.S.

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Re: EU and Brexit

#2532 Post by nero » Sat Jan 11, 2020 5:20 am

Anthropoid wrote:
Fri Jan 10, 2020 9:57 pm
Yep, Chlorination is the predominant means of water disinfection in the U.S.
Show that video in Flint. :lol:

The Brits have their own water problem.
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Re: EU and Brexit

#2533 Post by nero » Sat Jan 11, 2020 4:19 pm

chijohnaok wrote:
Fri Jan 10, 2020 9:18 pm
nero wrote:
Thu Jan 09, 2020 7:57 pm

If Americans are forced to consume it, why not Brits? :)

But why speculate at all, just wait when the trade deals are negotiated.

As for the trade negotiations I have learned that boJo's strategy is compete the US and the EU against each other to get the best possible deal for the UK. But how realistic is that? :?

In those trade negotiations UK is a clear underdog.

We will see.

The National Chicken Council would estimate that chlorine is used in some rinses and sprays in only about 10% of processing plants in the U.S.

But since Nero‘s is a know it all when it comes to what goes on in the United States, and „ Americans are forced to consume it„(Chlorinated chicken) this means that Americans throw out the 90% of chicken that is NOT processed in plants that don’t use chlorine in rinses and sprays and ONLY consume chicken processed in the 10% of plants that DO use „ chlorine in rinses and sprays„. :roll:
So chlorine is used in some rinses and sprays in only about 10% of processing plants in the U.S. But how much of the total chicken produced those 10% of plants process. My guess is that the number is way bigger than 10%. You can help me here. ;)

OTOH it is pretty difficult to find food related data in the US. Looks like even CDC is not allowed to collect data about Salmonella incidences. So many ag-gag laws and such. To me it is quite suspicious.

Also the fact that 80% of the antibiotics in the US goes to farm animals is alarming. The world is in midst of antibiotics resistance crisis and the US practices does not help at all, just on the contrary. :twisted:
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Re: EU and Brexit

#2534 Post by chijohnaok » Sat Jan 11, 2020 7:53 pm

My guess is that the number is way bigger than 10%. You can help me here. ;)
That is YOUR guess.

If you doubt the validity of the figures then feel free to find numbers from a valid source to contradict that.

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Re: EU and Brexit

#2535 Post by nero » Sat Jan 11, 2020 8:23 pm

chijohnaok wrote:
Sat Jan 11, 2020 7:53 pm
My guess is that the number is way bigger than 10%. You can help me here. ;)
That is YOUR guess.

If you doubt the validity of the figures then feel free to find numbers from a valid source to contradict that.

I am NOT your research bitch.
Aha. Do not...



PS. You seem to imply that some 10% chicken consumed in the US is chlorine washed. Would you feel bad if I prove that the number is much higher? :roll:
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Re: EU and Brexit

#2536 Post by Mac » Sun Jan 12, 2020 4:45 pm

Apparently we are going to have a festival of Brexit...
It has been mocked and pilloried as a “festival of Brexit”, but the newly appointed boss of the £120m nationwide celebration planned for 2022 has said he is going to embrace the cynics – and prove them wrong.

In his first interview as the director of Festival 2022, Martin Green said the aims would be to bring the nation together, showcase British creativity, and on a basic level bring some “joy, hope and happiness”.

The idea of a post-Brexit festival of Britain was announced by Theresa May in May 2018 and given the go-ahead by Boris Johnson last year.

Green, formerly in charge of the Olympic ceremonies and Hull’s year as UK City of Culture, was announced as festival leader over Christmas, and while he is a long way from announcing what might be commissioned, he has a clear idea of its broad aims – and of what it won’t be.

“There is obviously a big narrative going on around healing and coming together,” he said. “There is no doubt that money has been made available because this country is exiting the European Union, there is no getting away from that.

“There is also no doubt that we have been through a particularly divisive time in the discourse of our daily lives, and as we go forward, let’s see how the great creativity and ingenuity of the UK can help refind that common ground.

“On a very basic level, we are probably due a bit of joy and hope and happiness, and art is really good at that.”

When May announced the idea, it was mocked on social media, and “festival of Brexit” is not a characterisation Green has much truck with. “It’s a nice line and it makes you look, but I’d argue if you dig down … what on earth would that be about?

“It is absolutely expected that there is a degree of cynicism at the start of every major project … I’m lucky in that I’ve got form in this.”

He said there was cynicism from day one of the Olympic preparations and in Hull. “What you do is you embrace it. You don’t have an attitude to it, because it is a completely natural response. But people come round when they start seeing things for themselves.

“I fully expect the same kind of journey. The responsibility is on me and my team and the people we work with across the UK to deliver something worthy of people’s engagement.”

Green said he hoped that his track record would dispel fears that it will be a cringe-inducing festival of patriotism. It will also be organised at arm’s length from the government. “We are in charge of the curation of the festival. We will sign off the decisions, working with the devolved nations.”

What precise shape the festival will take remains to be seen. May was inspired by the 1951 Festival of Britain, but that was arguably a more graspable idea in that it had a centrepiece location on the South Bank in London.

Festival 2022 will not. “If you’re trying to do creative projects which reach and engage as many people as possible, probably what this is never going to be is an event, in a place on a day,” said Green.

“You have to start thinking about other places where creativity exists. Instantly you think digitally, but it’s not just that. It’s durational things, it’s things that travel, it’s things of scale, it’s about going where people are.

“I’ve no answers at the moment, but certainly the ‘form’ of it is one that brings a smile to my face because it is a challenge. Of course, I’m not the one who is going to answer the question – the great creatives of this country will.”

As an illustration, however, Green cites Steve McQueen’s Year 3 project with Tate as something that captured the public imagination and reached a huge number of people.

He expects to announce a programme by the end of 2021 and anticipates that it will involve “a small amount of very large acts … There will still be tons going on, but when there is special money on the table, you do want to do things which are not normal business.”

The festival will take place in a busy year for Britain. It will be the Queen’s platinum (70th) jubilee and the BBC’s centenary, and the Edinburgh international festival will be 75. There will also be the Commonwealth Games in Birmingham, for which Green is chief creative officer.

He predicts that the energy of all the events will feed into each other. If the BBC and the jubilee do look back, it will allow his festival to “fervently look forward … I don’t think it should be a festival of nostalgia.”

Green has had discussions with the culture secretary, Nicky Morgan, and expects to visit No 10 soon. A big challenge will be winning over scepticism in Scotland, Northern Ireland and Wales.

There remains some wariness about the idea of a festival, but Green believes the motivation for it comes from a genuine place, and £120m of Treasury money is not an insignificant amount of money.

“If you are looking to move forward, if you’re looking to find common ground, if you’re looking to on a really basic level share some joy and hope and community, then the best tool in the box we have is our creativity. Creativity solves problems.”

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Must be good, Remainers are crying salty tears about it on Twitter...

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Re: EU and Brexit

#2537 Post by Anthropoid » Sun Jan 12, 2020 5:30 pm

Sorry to say: I think that is an HORRIFICALLY bad idea. I'd expect it to pull in the Islamic Supremacist murdering creatures from the whole of Europe, if not the whole planet. Given the bitterness and spite of Remainers and the fact they are backed by some of the most callous and ruthless moneyed interests in human history, I'd say pretty good chance that funds have already been allocated to the appropriate accounts, recruitment and vetting are under way for the operatives (they are not fucking "terrorists" they are simply paramilitary operatives fighting an undeclared decades old war on behalf of an evil suite of pan-national ideological movements, the New Totalitarian Tribalist movement to use a label. Supremacist Islam is not exactly a component of the global NTT movement but it is an allied movement, or so NTT imagines . . .).

Best thing would be to allocate funds to ever municipality in the whole country to have THEIR OWN Festival. 5,000 points of light versus one gigantic bonfire . . . The fact that otherwise intelligent and forward thinking people don't stop to consider these things in 2019 never ceases to amaze me. But then, "WWI came out of a clear blue sky" and many people seemed convinced that the Appeasment was really gonna work to keep WWII in Europe from initiating . . .

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Re: EU and Brexit

#2538 Post by EUBanana » Sun Jan 12, 2020 5:39 pm

Given what remainers are like it'd be like trying to mollify the Hitler Youth by singing songs around the campfire. :lol:
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Re: EU and Brexit

#2539 Post by Mac » Mon Jan 13, 2020 3:10 pm

Thank fuck we are leaving...

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Re: EU and Brexit

#2540 Post by Dinosaur » Mon Jan 13, 2020 4:19 pm

Jumpin' the gun are they ?? I mean its another 18 days and a wake up before you're actually GONE, right ??

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