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 Post subject: Re: EU and Brexit
PostPosted: Fri Nov 01, 2019 9:20 am 
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Violence was option before the referendum too: murder of Jo Cox. :(

"My name is death to traitors, freedom for Britain" -- Thomas Alexander Mair.

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Hey Nero, what about the violence against Stephen Timms?

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 Post subject: Re: EU and Brexit
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Violence was option before the referendum too: murder of Jo Cox. :(

"My name is death to traitors, freedom for Britain" -- Thomas Alexander Mair.

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Hey Nero, what about the violence against Stephen Timms?

Was that brexit related? :roll:

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 Post subject: Re: EU and Brexit
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Hey Nero, what about the violence against Stephen Timms?

Was that brexit related? :roll:


It was NOT Brexit related.
But the violence/attack against Stephen Timms was the most recent attack against an MP (prior to Jo Cox).
(so it is relevant in the context of violence against Members of Parliament)

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Was that brexit related? :roll:


It was NOT Brexit related.
But the violence/attack against Stephen Timms was the most recent attack against an MP (prior to Jo Cox).
(so it is relevant in the context of violence against Members of Parliament)

But LaPalace's point was brexit related violence. ;)

Or are planning to go back to Boudica?

Britain first -- Boudica.

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 Post subject: Re: EU and Brexit
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https://www.standard.co.uk/news/politic ... 75276.html

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UK election polls: Boris Johnson soars into 17-point opinion poll lead ahead of Labour leader Jeremy Corbyn

EXCLUSIVE: Survey shows Tories up to 41 per cent... while Labour marooned on 24

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JOE MURPHY Political editor
19 hours ago

Boris Johnson and the Conservatives have surged to a huge 17-point lead at the start of the general election campaign, a major poll revealed today.

The Ipsos MORI survey shows the Tories up eight points since September to 41 per cent, while Labour is marooned on 24.

At the same time, the Prime Minister’s personal scores have leaped, including for his handling of Brexit, while those of Jeremy Corbyn have stayed at rock bottom.

The findings are excruciating for the Labour leader, suggesting that his fence-sitting on Brexit has turned into a disaster.

Eight in 10 people think he has done “a bad job” at handling Brexit, indicating that neither Leave nor Remain supporters admire his performance.

And just over half of Labour supporters think Mr Corbyn has handled Brexit badly.

Meanwhile more than eight in 10 Tory backers are pleased with the way Mr Johnson has handled Britain’s departure from the European Union.

Mr Corbyn kicked off Labour’s campaign with a rally in Battersea this morning where he vowed to “get Brexit sorted within six months” and hit out at “tax dodgers, dodgy landlords, bad bosses and big polluters”.

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The Prime Minister embarked on a one-day dash taking in a school, a hospital and a police unit, promising to “get Brexit done and deliver on the people’s priorities, including the NHS, education and crime.”

Liberal Democrat leader Jo Swinson launched her party’s slogan — Stop Brexit. Build a brighter future — and dispatched an ad-van to tour it around her rivals’ constituencies of Uxbridge and Islington.

Voters would divide as follows in an election today: Conservative, 41 per cent; Labour, 24 per cent; Liberal Democrats, 20 per cent; Brexit Party, seven per cent; Greens, three per cent. It is the highest Conservative share since June 2018 and the 17-point Tory lead is the biggest since April 2017.

Mr Johnson has the best personal scores of any leader since 2017, with 46 per cent satisfied and 44 dissatisfied — a net score of plus 2.

Conservatives are overwhelmingly happy with their leader, with 80 per cent satisfied and nine per cent dissatisfied.

Mr Corbyn has failed to improve since last month’s record-breaking low personal scores. Just 15 per cent of voters are happy with his performance and 75 per cent are unhappy — a net score of minus 60.

Labour voters are divided about their leader, with 46 per cent satisfied and 49 per cent dissatisfied.

Voters have warmed to the Prime Minister’s handling of Brexit in the past month, during which he clinched his deal. Some 47 per cent say he has done a good job, while 45 per cent say he has done badly. That compares with last month’s score of 38 good and 53 bad. It is the first net positive score for any leader on Brexit since March 2017.

Tories are thrilled with the PM’s handling of Brexit, with 84 per cent saying “good job” and 11 per cent “bad job”.

Voters give an overwhelming thumbs down to Mr Corbyn’s handling of Brexit. Just 11 per cent think he has done well, while 79 per cent say he has done badly.

Labour voters also say Mr Corbyn has mishandled Brexit. Just 37 per cent of his own party base say he has done well, while 52 per cent say he has done badly.

Mr Johnson’s Brexit deal gets mixed reviews from the public — but a much warmer score than Theresa May’s agreement did a year ago. His deal is deemed good by 38 per cent and bad by 44. Her deal was seen as good by just 25 and bad by 62 per cent.

Jo Swinson and Nigel Farage both have negative ratings overall, albeit with more “don’t knows”. Lib Dem leader Ms Swinson is on minus 12 (29 satisfied/41 dissatisfied) and the Brexit Party leader is at minus 22 (29/51).

Britons are deeply pessimistic about the economic outlook for the year ahead, with 56 per cent expecting things to get worse, and 17 per cent hopeful they will get better.

There is no sign of Mr Johnson being badly damaged by failing to hit his “do or die” deadline for Brexit of 11pm tonight. Three people in 10 think it makes no difference, three in 10 think it is a good thing, and four in 10 think it is a bad thing.

Just two in 10 of the people who are glad that Brexit has been delayed to January 31 think Mr Corbyn was responsible for the postponement. On the other hand, four in 10 of those who think the delay is a bad thing hold him partly to blame for it.

Ratings for the Government as a whole are low, with just 19 per cent of voters happy with how it is running the country, including only a third of Conservatives, while 74 per cent are dissatisfied. Gideon Skinner, head of political research at Ipsos MORI, cautioned: “As Theresa May knows, a poll lead can be lost during a campaign and this puts the Conservatives at the upper margins compared with other polls. Nevertheless it confirms the Conservatives are starting in a strong position.”

More than 300,000 people have applied to register to vote in 48 hours, according to government figures.



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 Post subject: Re: EU and Brexit
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As if Labour didn't already have enough problems, there is this:

https://www.standard.co.uk/news/politic ... 75321.html

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Labour’s Jewish group refuses to campaign over ‘festering’ anti-Semitism

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JOE MURPHY Political editor
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Jeremy Corbyn was hit by an election backlash against anti-Semitism in Labour’s ranks today when one of the party’s oldest affiliated groups withdrew from campaigning.

In a stinging statement, Jewish Labour Movement (JLM) said it will cut support for most candidates because under Mr Corbyn’s leadership “a culture of anti-Semitism has been allowed to emerge and fester”.

Separately, Rachel Riley, the pregnant Countdown star, tweeted that she opposed a Corbyn victory that would mean her baby, “Jewish by blood”, would “be born under an anti-Semitic government”. When she was asked how she would be voting, she replied: “I’ll be voting for Chuka Umunna.”

Former Labour MP Mr Umunna joined the Lib Dems and is standing in Cities of London & Westminster.

And in a third blow, the pressure group Labour Against Anti-Semitism (LAAS) branded the party “unfit to be in Government” because of “endemic” racism against Jewish people. It urged the public to vote for “anyone but Corbyn”. A Labour spokesman said the party was taking “robust action to root out anti-Semitism”, including through “swift suspensions” of offenders. The Equalities and Human Rights Commission has launched a full inquiry into allegations of institutional racism.

JLM has been affiliated with Labour since 1920 and helped the party fight for key seats, such as north London marginals Hampstead & Kilburn and Hornsey & Wood Green.




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I'm shocked .. this doesn't sound like the "new brits" (that luv moslums and hate hebes) ...

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If to is to criticize Israel's occupation policies is antisemitism. But I am not an anti-Semite and I criticize the land grab currently happening. :twisted:

How about you?

PS. I don't like Corbyn either. It the brexit ever happens, it is because of Corbyn. :twisted:

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chijohnaok wrote:

I would think that "fish and chips" brexit is more popular. :shock:

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