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 Post subject: Re: EU and Brexit
PostPosted: Fri Nov 24, 2017 11:41 am 
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And your Europaranoia is worsening. :shock:


For years and years we've been assured there is no likelihood of an EU army, during the referendum campaign Nick Clegg, Twat in Chief, declared it a 'dangerous fantasy'.

Now Federica Mogherini is announcing the creation of an EU army.

:roll:

The whole project is based on lies and repeated fait accompli, and fortunately enough Brits realise that.

Fakt jo?

Is there a secret plan to create an EU army?

Paranoia. :roll:

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 Post subject: Re: EU and Brexit
PostPosted: Fri Nov 24, 2017 12:22 pm 
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The Italian communist meanwhile says otherwise.

https://www.politico.eu/article/eu-fore ... -security/

https://www.politico.eu/article/federic ... s-sign-up/

Just like the European Constitution is called the Lisbon Treaty, the EU army will be some garbled Newspeak shit too, "permanent structured cooperation" perhaps, but the bottom line will be the same either way.

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 Post subject: Re: EU and Brexit
PostPosted: Fri Nov 24, 2017 12:44 pm 
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The Italian communist meanwhile says otherwise.

https://www.politico.eu/article/eu-fore ... -security/

https://www.politico.eu/article/federic ... s-sign-up/

Just like the European Constitution is called the Lisbon Treaty, the EU army will be some garbled Newspeak shit too, "permanent structured cooperation" perhaps, but the bottom line will be the same either way.

If some EU countries, like Finland and Sweden plan for closer co-operation, it is far cry from common EU army. ;)

Paranoia. :roll:

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 Post subject: Re: EU and Brexit
PostPosted: Fri Nov 24, 2017 1:13 pm 
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Denial ain't just a river in Egypt.

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 Post subject: Re: EU and Brexit
PostPosted: Fri Nov 24, 2017 1:26 pm 
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Denial ain't just a river in Egypt.

Illiteracy and reading incomprehension causes paranoia. ;)

The other question is how much you are influenced by Putin's trolls. Russian troll factories had a major effect in the brexit vote. ;)

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 Post subject: Re: EU and Brexit
PostPosted: Fri Nov 24, 2017 1:33 pm 
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How much are you influenced by EU propaganda? The EU certainly spends a lot on it.

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 Post subject: Re: EU and Brexit
PostPosted: Fri Nov 24, 2017 1:37 pm 
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How much are you influenced by EU propaganda? The EU certainly spends a lot on it.

How much?

And how about you?

There has been an active anti-Europe propaganda campaign going on since the UK joined the EEC. Nay, that has been going on for centuries. :roll:

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PostPosted: Fri Nov 24, 2017 2:03 pm 
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Google "EU opinion multipliers", that's Eurojargon for "opinion formers". Loads of stuff. And that's just the beginning. And if nothing else it shows intent.

I don't think any government in the western world is quite overt as the EU in deliberately attempting to market itself. It's not like the US funds professorships contingent on supporting the US government, the EU does that all the time. For example.

The ERASMUS program was set up to "foster a European identity" in part. Google it, it's not like it's a big secret, might be hard to find now as it's more of a 90s thing. I call that propaganda.

The regular Eurobarometer polling measures things like how European people feel and how positive they feel about the Union. This ain't regular politics. It's not "which Eurogroup of parties do you like". The EU monitors Euronationalism and is constantly trying to foment it. Again it's not like they lie about it, just most don't pay attention or care.

Whenever the EU is bribing someone they are required, by law, to put up a big poster saying "Funded by the European Union". Again, no normal government does this sort of thing. There isn't a Union Jack next to every UK road with a "provided by your worthy rulers in London!", but Brussels does that all the time.

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 Post subject: Re: EU and Brexit
PostPosted: Fri Nov 24, 2017 2:15 pm 
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Google "EU opinion multipliers", that's Eurojargon for "opinion formers". Loads of stuff. And that's just the beginning. And if nothing else it shows intent.

I don't think any government in the western world is quite overt as the EU in deliberately attempting to market itself. It's not like the US funds professorships contingent on supporting the US government, the EU does that all the time. For example.
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I can remember the story how German unemployed women were denied unemployment benefits if they don't accept job as a prostitute.

But I don't blame the UK government for that. I blame the usual suspects, UK anti-Europe media. :lol:

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The ERASMUS program was set up to "foster a European identity" in part. Google it, it's not like it's a big secret, might be hard to find now as it's more of a 90s thing. I call that propaganda.

:shock:

To me the Erasmus program looks just right. ;)



But you are just envy :roll:

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 Post subject: Re: EU and Brexit
PostPosted: Fri Nov 24, 2017 3:05 pm 
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To me the Erasmus program looks just right. ;)


Like I said, it's not like it's a secret.

http://www.readcube.com/articles/10.111 ... NSE_DENIED

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But you are just envy :roll:


I don't appreciate gap toothed fascist fuckwits or communists like Federica Mogherini constantly trying it on with blatant subversion.

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