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 Post subject: Re: EU and Brexit
PostPosted: Sat Sep 09, 2017 4:36 pm 
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EUBanana wrote:
There are plenty of reasons to oppose it - the fact it's not a democratically accountable being one of them.

The EU has demonstrated time and time again that it simply doesn't care about the welfare of its citizens, it cares far more about ideology and it's own self preservation. These days it doesn't even attempt to hide these facts, it openly crows it, and the propagangised sheep of the EU go along with it, presumably because they're alright Jack. Right now the main reason to be pro-EU seems to be imperialism, if the antics of Barnier and Juncker are anything to go by, because none of the good things that the EU tries to promote, like free trade, actually require an EU structure at all.

This whole carrot and stick approach to federalism ( "You have to accept being Juncker's bitch, if you want free trade" ) shows you what a sinister organisation this truly is, because you don't you don't need to be anybody's bitch to have free trade; it can even be offered unilaterally if you want. So the reason for the EU's existence isn't the free trade part, it's the bitch part. And this view of mine has been amply confirmed post-Brexit. I'm glad really, because surely the EU has burned the bridges good and proper with it's denunciations and demands.

Fortunately the EU is yesterday's news, frankly. The high water mark has been and gone, and Europe will inevitably decline in global relevance as time goes on. If they want to pursue imperialistic fantasies then whatever, tbh. All it will achieve is confirm to me t hat I'm right, something I'm very used to in politics ;) . I guess my next car will be a Nissan not a Volvo, a price I'm willing to pay to not be controlled by ideologues and drunkards for whom the plebs are scurrying little ants to be thrown on a bonfire whenever the Project requires it.

This royal throne of kings, this scepter’d isle,
This earth of majesty, this seat of Mars,
This other Eden, demi-paradise,
This fortress built by Nature for herself
Against infection and the hand of war,
This happy breed of men, this little world,
This precious stone set in the silver sea,
Which serves it in the office of a wall,
Or as a moat defensive to a house,
Against the envy of less happier lands,
This blessed plot, this earth, this realm, this England.

You can sit in your demi-paradise alone, in the rain. ;)



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PS. I did prefer Saab over Volvo. But no Saab no more and the Chinese own Volvo. :twisted:
PPS. You can grow quality wine in Kent. So no worries. ;)

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 Post subject: Re: EU and Brexit
PostPosted: Sat Sep 09, 2017 6:49 pm 
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Once the British shed themselves of the EU they will have more than enough money to import wines from wherever they desire... ;-)

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 Post subject: Re: EU and Brexit
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Once the British shed themselves of the EU they will have more than enough money to import wines from wherever they desire... ;-)

I had the impression that the money saved was to be spent on the NHS. :roll:

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 Post subject: Re: EU and Brexit
PostPosted: Sat Sep 09, 2017 7:12 pm 
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Once the British shed themselves of the EU they will have more than enough money to import wines from wherever they desire... ;-)

I had the impression that the money saved was to be spent on the NHS. :roll:


That's the money saved from the EU contribution. There will be further savings when we're out from behind the EU's common external tariff.

The price of food on the world market is lower than it is within the European Union, mainly to keep French farmers happy, for example. And those Nissans will be cheaper than Swedish (or Dutch, depends on the year) Volvos too.

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 Post subject: Re: EU and Brexit
PostPosted: Sat Sep 09, 2017 7:16 pm 
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EUBanana wrote:
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I had the impression that the money saved was to be spent on the NHS. :roll:


That's the money saved from the EU contribution. There will be further savings when we're out from behind the EU's common external tariff.

The price of food on the world market is lower than it is within the European Union, mainly to keep French farmers happy, for example. And those Nissans will be cheaper than Swedish (or Dutch, depends on the year) Volvos too.

Good luck with that. ;)

But then how realistic is that. Time will tell...

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 Post subject: Re: EU and Brexit
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From BBC News:

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The UK will "soon regret" leaving the EU, European Commission President Jean-Claude Juncker has said.

Mr Juncker told the European Parliament that Brexit would be a "sad, tragic" moment for the EU but that the 27-member union would "move on".

"Brexit is not the future of Europe. It is not the be all and end all."

But, speaking in the same debate, ex-UKIP leader Nigel Farage said the EU had "learnt nothing" from Brexit and was ploughing "full steam ahead".

In his state of the union speech in Strasbourg, Mr Juncker proposed an EU summit on the day after Brexit, 30 March 2019, in the Romanian city of Sibiu to map out the future of the European Union.




Did you hear that EUbanana?
You will regret your decision.

Maybe if you ask Herr Juncker nicely he will put in a good word for you ;-)

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 Post subject: Re: EU and Brexit
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The most biased BBC article I've read for quite a while, that one.

Britain sucks, the EU rocks, again and again. No mention of the EU army that Juncker wants, the one that Farage was told was a crazy delusion. A lie by omission, the BBC's specialty.

Truly, Juncker and his mate Verhofstadt were the best two politicians as far as the Brexit cause is concerned. Those two unlovable assholes pretty much sum up the reason to leave right there. Whenever Juncker opened his trap a few more thousand voters were convinced to leave. I cannot wait to be shot of these scum.

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Whenever Juncker opened his trap a few more thousand voters were convinced to leave.


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Ringo being interviewed on National People's Radio:

NPR chick: "You've certainly travelled more and been to more places than the great majority of people in the world..."

........at this point I'm thinking..where is going with this?

...Where are the best looking women?
...Where can you get the best marijuana?
...Where are the best tax shelters?
...Where do you draw the most musical inspiration?

...but no..she asks him, accusingly


"Why (she stops herself from saying "you stupid racist bastard") do you support Brexit?" :roll:

He was classy and did not snap back at her snarky tone...


Ringo: "Well, it IS a democracy and the people voted for Brexit so I just think they should go through with it." :lol:

Quite a revolutionary. I don't understand what he has to apologize for.

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 Post subject: Re: EU and Brexit
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http://www.politico.eu/article/brexit-n ... eu-budget/

It's alright. Nero will pony up.

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