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 Post subject: Re: EU and Brexit
PostPosted: Thu Jan 25, 2018 11:05 am 
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You can fool all the people some of the time, and some of the people all the time, but you cannot fool all the people all the time. ;)


The very foundation of British membership in the EU.

Edward Heath in the 1970s...

"There are some in this country who fear that in going into Europe we shall in some way sacrifice independence and sovereignty, even that we shall begin to lose our national identity. These fears, I need hardly say, are completely unjustified and exaggerated. "

Edward Heath in the 1980s...

"Peter Sissons: The single currency, a United States of Europe, was all that in your mind when you took Britain in?
Edward Heath: Of course, yes."

Dante put traitors right down at the bottom on level 9. Rest well, Ted.

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 Post subject: Re: EU and Brexit
PostPosted: Thu Jan 25, 2018 12:00 pm 
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EUBanana wrote:
nero wrote:
You can fool all the people some of the time, and some of the people all the time, but you cannot fool all the people all the time. ;)


The very foundation of British membership in the EU.

Edward Heath in the 1970s...

"There are some in this country who fear that in going into Europe we shall in some way sacrifice independence and sovereignty, even that we shall begin to lose our national identity. These fears, I need hardly say, are completely unjustified and exaggerated. "

Edward Heath in the 1980s...

"Peter Sissons: The single currency, a United States of Europe, was all that in your mind when you took Britain in?
Edward Heath: Of course, yes."

Dante put traitors right down at the bottom on level 9. Rest well, Ted.

Obviously prefer Edward III and Henry V over Ted. ;)

Good that Macron loans the Bayeux Tapestry to England though.

Then I wonder what did May promise to Nissan? Something more and substantial that to Toblerone.

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 Post subject: Re: EU and Brexit
PostPosted: Thu Jan 25, 2018 12:12 pm 
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indecipherable nonsense


If you want to be an elitist, autocrat loving twat, who approves of empires based upon outright deceit, that's up to you.

You definitely aren't any freedom fighter though. You're the other side. 8-)

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 Post subject: Re: EU and Brexit
PostPosted: Thu Jan 25, 2018 12:19 pm 
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nero wrote:
indecipherable nonsense


If you want to be an elitist, autocrat loving twat, who approves of empires based upon outright deceit, that's up to you.

You definitely aren't any freedom fighter though. You're the other side. 8-)

When quote, quote correctly. :twisted:

As for being a freedom fighter, I was ready 40 years to fight for the freedom of my country. And I still would do it.

How about you? ;)

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 Post subject: Re: EU and Brexit
PostPosted: Thu Jan 25, 2018 12:22 pm 
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As for being a freedom fighter, I was ready 40 years to fight for the freedom of my country. And I still would do it.

How about you? ;)


Your country is free to follow EU orders. Some freedom. I guess you must've fucked up somewhere along the line.

In voting for Brexit, and in some tiny part helping it happen by agitating for it and voting for it for years, I've therefore got you beat on that score. :lol:

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 Post subject: Re: EU and Brexit
PostPosted: Thu Jan 25, 2018 12:32 pm 
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nero wrote:
As for being a freedom fighter, I was ready 40 years to fight for the freedom of my country. And I still would do it.

How about you? ;)


Your country is free to follow EU orders. Some freedom. I guess you must've fucked up somewhere along the line.

In voting for Brexit, and in some tiny part helping it happen by agitating for it and voting for it for years, I've therefore got you beat on that score. :lol:

So you fighting for freedom was by voting for brexit?

Very brave of you.

In comparison I was prepared to fight the Red Army to the bitter end.

So you are risking economic pain, while I had my life at risk.

Funny that your risk is real, my risk is not. :lol:

Feel the Toblerone.

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 Post subject: Re: EU and Brexit
PostPosted: Thu Jan 25, 2018 12:40 pm 
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So you fighting for freedom was by voting for brexit?

Very brave of you.

In comparison I was prepared to fight the Red Army to the bitter end.

So you are risking economic pain, while I had my life at risk.

Funny that your risk is real, my risk is not. :lol:

Feel the Toblerone.


Not like they are conscripting us for WW3 against Europe. The UK hasn't had national service for decades. And being an island, aside from WW1 it's never been British strategy to have massive armies where people get killed for no good reason; a moat with some boats on it is much preferred. As for r00skies, well, everybody in the northern hemisphere was at risk during the Cold War.

... And at the end of the day, when all this puff and nonsense fades away, the stark fact remains - your country has less independence than a US state. And if a Toblerone bar is reason enough to endure that, your price turned out to be very low indeed.

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... And at the end of the day, when all this puff and nonsense fades away, the stark fact remains - your country has less independence than a US state.

Now you have to prove your outrageous proposition. ;)

Waiting...

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 Post subject: Re: EU and Brexit
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EUBanana wrote:
... And at the end of the day, when all this puff and nonsense fades away, the stark fact remains - your country has less independence than a US state.

Now you have to prove your outrageous proposition. ;)

Waiting...


Look in your wallet.

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 Post subject: Re: EU and Brexit
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Look in your wallet.

Plastic.

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