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 Post subject: Re: EU and Brexit
PostPosted: Sat Dec 23, 2017 3:13 pm 
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And who is that Guy Verhofstadt anyway. :?


I have noticed that the more pro-EU the individual, the more likelihood that they know the square root of fuck all about it.

Banana's Conjecture, one might say. :lol:

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 Post subject: Re: EU and Brexit
PostPosted: Sat Dec 23, 2017 7:25 pm 
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Twitter once again proves how fucking stupid it is...

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Theresa May's communications director has hit out at "fake news" after a claim about the cost of post-Brexit blue British passports was shared tens of thousands of times on Twitter.

Robbie Gibb said deliberately misrepresenting government policies "harms our democracy".

Ex-Dragon's Den panellist James Caan had shared claims the passports would cost £500m but later withdrew them.

The new passports will be issued from October 2019.

The redesign, which happens routinely every five years, will come as part of a £490m contract which also includes printing and assembling passports and runs for 11 and a half years.

But Mr Caan had claimed it would cost £500m just to change the colour.

He tweeted: "A country that would spend £500m to change the colour of a passport while children sleep on the streets is a country whose priorities are wholly out of whack."

The tweet was shared tens of thousands of times before the entrepreneur admitted it was "fake news".



Good news. Having researched the cost of providing new passports it appears the £500m for the colour is fake news. However, that doesn’t detract from my intention that together as a society we need to prioritise tackling issues such as children in poverty and homelessness.
— James Caan CBE (@jamescaan) December 23, 2017

The row came after Environment Secretary Michael Gove last month hit out at social media users who wrongly claimed MPs voted against treating animals as sentient beings.

Mr Gibb tweeted: "Fake news harms our democracy. Those who would deliberately misrepresent public policy for political gain - be it passports or animal sentience - should be called out."

Mr Caan's original tweet was shared more than 27,000 times by Saturday evening.

It also prompted Home Office minister Brandon Lewis to reply: "This is factually wrong. The new passport will not cost the taxpayer any extra, will you correct this misinformation? Huge thx".

Mrs May has hailed the move to bring back blue travel documents as an expression of the UK's post-Brexit "sovereignty and independence", although Nicola Sturgeon described it as "insular, inward looking, nonsense".

The European Parliament's chief Brexit coordinator Guy Verhofstadt pointed out that Britain could have chosen to have a blue passport while remaining a member of the EU.

There is no Brussels regulation which states that EU countries' passports have to be a certain colour, simply a legally non-binding European Council resolution from 1981 which recommends burgundy red.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-42468938

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 Post subject: Re: EU and Brexit
PostPosted: Sat Dec 23, 2017 8:40 pm 
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And the Remoaners are the rational ones. Uh huh.

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 Post subject: Re: EU and Brexit
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The Finnish passport solution. If you like blue and gold better.

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Fixit. :lol:

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 Post subject: Re: EU and Brexit
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http://www.breitbart.com/london/2017/12 ... -per-cent/

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Merry Brexmas: Support for Staying in the EU Collapses to 39 Per Cent
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Polling conducted in the run-up to Christmas reveals support for staying in the European Union has collapsed to just 39 per cent.

Fieldwork carried out by YouGov for its regular EuroTrack survey found that, among a weighted sample of 1,692 adults, some 48 per cent said they would prefer Britain goes ahead with Brexit, compared with only 39 per cent who said they would still prefer to stay in the bloc.

The poll suggests that, with ‘Don’t Knows excluded’, over 55 per cent of people now back Britain leaving the European Union.

This contrasts strongly with a recent poll commissioned by the Remain-supporting Independent website, which was debunked as fake news after alleging an 11-point lead for staying in the EU on flimsy evidence.



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If I recall Nero had wanted another Brexit vote.

Based on this poll it looks like the outcome wouldn't change from last time.

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FREXIT

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EU BOMBSHELL: Macron admits France would vote to LEAVE EU if country held referendum

FRENCH president Emmanuel Macron shocked Andrew Marr during their interview when he admitted that had France held a referendum on membership of the EU after Brexit, the French people would vote to leave.



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 Post subject: Re: EU and Brexit
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FREXIT

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EU BOMBSHELL: Macron admits France would vote to LEAVE EU if country held referendum

FRENCH president Emmanuel Macron shocked Andrew Marr during their interview when he admitted that had France held a referendum on membership of the EU after Brexit, the French people would vote to leave.



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Macron recognizes that the mojority of people lose because of globalisation symbolized by EU in Europe. That's why we will never have a referendum here in France. Macron and co would be sure to lose it.


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Macron recognizes that the mojority of people lose because of globalisation symbolized by EU in Europe. That's why we will never have a referendum here in France. Macron and co would be sure to lose it.



So Macron admits that the will of the people shall be ignored. :lol:

Yeah, sign me up for that. ;)

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Macron recognizes that the mojority of people lose because of globalisation symbolized by EU in Europe. That's why we will never have a referendum here in France. Macron and co would be sure to lose it.



So Macron admits that the will of the people shall be ignored. :lol:

Yeah, sign me up for that. ;)

That's how democracy works nowadays in Europe. But the backlash is that mainstream political parties are more and more weakened, as we can see it all over Europe. In France, the socialist party (social democrats) is now nonexistent, and the conservatives have no voice. Look how it is difficult for the Germans or the Spaniards to form a government. Soon, it will be the turn of Italy.


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So Macron admits that the will of the people shall be ignored. :lol:

Yeah, sign me up for that. ;)

That's how democracy works nowadays in Europe. But the backlash is that mainstream political parties are more and more weakened, as we can see it all over Europe. In France, the socialist party (social democrats) is now nonexistent, and the conservatives have no voice. Look how it is difficult for the Germans or the Spaniards to form a government. Soon, it will be the turn of Italy.



Well, Italy has a history of changing its governments often:

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Why do governments in Italy change so often?

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