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Man undergoing minor surgery given vasectomy by mistake
The man was admitted for a minor urological procedure but the Royal Liverpool Hospital surgeon operated on the ‘wrong site’


By Hayley Dixon10:59AM BST 06 May 2014

A man undergoing a minor operation was given a vasectomy by mistake.

Doctors have tried to reverse the blunder, but the victim faces an anxious wait to see if he will be able to have children.

The man had gone in to surgery for a minor urological procedure, but doctors carried out an operation on the “wrong site”. They could now face a six figure compensation claim.

The Royal Liverpool Hospital has "apologised unreservedly" to the patient and said the surgeon has been suspended from carrying out operations during an internal investigation.

The man has not been identified and the NHS trust has refused to disclose his age because of patient confidentiality.

The trust say this is only their second "never event" – a medical mistake that should never happen – since 2011. The other incident involved a patient who had the wrong teeth removed.

Dr Peter Williams, the medical director, said: "We can confirm a patient who was scheduled to have a different minor urological procedure was wrongly given a vasectomy.

"We have apologised unreservedly to the patient and we are offering him our full support. We greatly regret the distress this has caused him.

"It is our duty, in the best interests of the patient to uphold their confidentiality, therefore we cannot provide any further detail without their agreement.

"This is a serious incident and we are investigating this fully to understand why it occurred and how we can ensure it does not happen again."

A vasectomy is a surgical procedure in which the tubes that carry sperm from a man's testicles to the penis are cut, blocked or sealed.

In most cases, it is more than 99 per cent effective and although it can be reversed, NHS England figures show that the success rate is only around 55 per cent.

Ian Cohen, clinical negligence lawyer at Slater & Gordon, said the error could cost the trust a six-figure sum.

He said: "This is a truly shocking and worrying case. From what we know there has been a catastrophic breakdown in procedure, as simple checks designed to ensure the correct operation is carried out on the right patient seem to have failed.

"In a worst-case scenario – sterility in a younger man with no children – the trust might be liable for a figure in excess of £100,000 in compensation."

Hospital bosses admitted the mistake during a Royal Liverpool and Broadgreen University Hospitals NHS Trust board meeting.

Chief executive Aidan Kehoe said it appeared the World Health Organisation (WHO) surgical safety checklist had not been followed when the operation happened in February.

Hospital Chairman Judith Greensmith asked for assurances over the use of the checklist, which has also been raised by England's health watchdog, the Care Quality Commission.

The GP-led Liverpool Clinical Commissioning Group board, which monitors patient safety incidents, said the case involved "wrong site surgery".

Dr Williams said: "We take any incident such as this extremely seriously and report them at the highest level in the trust and to our regulators …

"We care for around 90,000 inpatient and day-case patients a year and carry out over 25,000 surgical procedures. Since 2011 we have had one other never event."

Union bosses have claimed that staffing cuts and increased pressure on their members could be partly to blame for the error.

Louise Ellman, Liverpool Riverside MP, said: "Clearly this is a matter of great concern for the person involved.

"This must be followed up by the hospital and action taken to ensure it doesn't happen again."

Hospitals are now required to publish a quarterly list detailing their never events so that performances between different hospitals can be compared.

In the 12 months till September last year there were 299 never events in NHS hospitals across the country, including operations on the wrong side of the body and medical instruments left inside a patient after the procedure.




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The NHS is an evil organisation dedicated to giving healthcare to people free at the point of delivery. What's it worse than?

Boko Haram.

It's worse than Boko Haram.

If a British person needs a new knee, or their child is sick, or they catch syphilis and need antibiotics, we'd rather get Boko Haram just to hack us to bits than go to the NHS.

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Britain is just a kind of hell, full of the NHS and Islamic extremists.

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Wrongly Removed Testicles and Drug Overdoses: NHS Clocks Up 1,100 Mistakes In Just Four Years


by DONNA RACHEL EDMUNDS
18 Feb 2016

More than 1,100 National Health Service (NHS) patients have been victims of so-called ‘never events’ – errors so serious that they should never happen – within the last four years alone. But despite strong rules already being in place to prevent such events, managers have promised merely to “learn” from the mistakes.

A man who had his testicle removed instead of merely the cyst on it was among more than 400 patients who suffered “wrong site surgery”. One woman who had her Fallopian tubes removed instead of her appendix; another had a kidney removed instead of an ovary. Yet more have had the wrong knee, hip, eye or leg operated on, The Telegraph has reported.

A further 420 people have had foreign objects left inside them during surgery, including gauzes, swabs, drill guides, scalpel blades and needles.

‘Never events’ are mistakes which should never occur because strict guidelines are in place to prevent them. Nonetheless, over the last four years NHS England has recorded around 300 ‘never events’ on average each year. The worst offender was Colchester Hospital University NHS Foundation Trust, which recorded nine such events between April 2014 and March 2015 alone.

In some cases patients have been subjected to feeding tubes being placed into their lung instead of their gut – a mistake which can prove fatal. In others, patients have been mixed up with others, had the wrong blood given to them during a transfusion, or been given dangerously high doses of drugs.

One patient was given a biopsy on their liver instead of their pancreas, while some diabetics have not been administered insulin.

Despite the obvious danger these instances put patients in, and the long term ill effects that can result, the NHS has merely promised to “learn” from the events to ensure that they are never repeated – despite strong guidelines already being in place to prevent them.

An NHS England spokeswoman also sought to play down the figures by pointing out that they comprise a tiny percentage of cases seen by the NHS each year, saying: “there are 4.6 million hospital admissions that lead to surgical care each year and, despite stringent measures put in place, on rare occasions these incidents do occur.”

She continued: “To better understand the reasons why, in 2013 we commissioned a taskforce to investigate, leading to a new set of national standards being published last year specifically to support doctors, nurses and hospitals to prevent these mistakes.

“Any organisation that reports a serious incident is also expected to conduct its own investigation so it can learn and take action to prevent similar incidents from being repeated.”

Promises to do better will be of little comfort to the patients who suffer the ill-consequences of these mistakes.

Earlier this month the Labour Peer Lord Carter concluded that some NHS hospitals were being run on “Soviet-style models with an attitude of ‘you are lucky to have it, now wait in a queue.’”

In the worst examples of badly run hospitals, he found that management had devoted twice as much space to a bloated bureaucracy than they had to patients.

In the same week a senior cancer specialist warned that the Service was “on its knees” thanks to “thousands of health tourists” from across the European Union using the service to get free treatment.


The removal of one's testicles is going to be a bit more difficult to reverse than the vasectomy that was incorrectly given to the chap in the May 2014 news article.

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The NHS is an evil organisation dedicated to giving healthcare to people free at the point of delivery. What's it worse than?

Boko Haram.

It's worse than Boko Haram.

If a British person needs a new knee, or their child is sick, or they catch syphilis and need antibiotics, we'd rather get Boko Haram just to hack us to bits than go to the NHS.



There are many good things about the NHS....waiting times are not one of them. The fact that there has to be a codified rule about waiting times for elective procedures (18 weeks) should be instructive.

Speaking of knee replacements...the wait is 107 days on average. It's longer than 18 wseeks for hips. 91 days for gallstones. :shock: That is just crazy trying to live on water and boiled rice and pain meds for 3 months
waiting for a damn cholecystectomy.


If HCFA announced a waiting time of 18 weeks for hip replacements for Medicare, an army of 1 million Grey Panthers would descend on Washington and batter the Capitol Buidling to rubble with their walkers.

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NHS waiting times for elective surgery spiked last year, report finds


Delays faced by patients for common forms of surgery increased sharply last year, with those referred for hernia repairs or removal of cataracts, tonsils or adenoids now waiting about a month longer than in 2010, NHS statistics show.

The waiting time for seven key procedures in England now ranges from 91 days, for gallstone removal, to 107 days, for a knee replacement. In just a year, the average waiting time for cataracts removal rose by a third (24 days) compared with 2013.

The Patients Association, which is publishing the data online on Saturday, said its analysis suggests 50,000 people waited longer than 18 weeks for at least one of the procedures, which also included hip replacement, last year. Under the NHS constitution, everyone has a right to receive elective surgical treatment within 18 weeks after being referred by their GP.

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The association’s chief executive, Katherine Murphy, said it was time to change things and see beyond the statistics to the human cost.

“There’s been a big jump in the waiting times,” she said. “That’s bad enough for someone who’s waiting for surgery in any of these areas, but especially for someone who’s waiting for hip operation or cataracts removal when it can impact on their life in a serious way.

“While we acknowledge the pressures on the NHS, finances should never ever be a reason for anything to be delayed or stopped in healthcare. These figures should remind commissioners and politicians that they need to take steps to increase the efficiency of provision.”

The report is the latest evidence that the NHS is struggling to cope with demand amid structural and financial upheaval, despite David Cameron’s 2011 pledge to ensure waiting times remained low.




It confirms the group’s findings in previous years of a postcode lottery. For example, in London the average waiting time for cataract removal is 85 days, compared with 102 in the south of England.

At a trust level, the differences are even starker. The average patient waited 64 days on average for a knee replacement in Bolton (231 procedures carried out) compared with 203 days at Barts NHS trust in London (319 procedures carried out). In March, Barts was put into special measures after inspectors uncovered an array of serious problems at one of its hospitals.

Despite the variation, every trust bar one reported some of its patients had waited more than 18 weeks for one or more of the seven procedures. Under the NHS constitution, if it is not possible to carry out surgery within 18 weeks the person responsible for commissioning treatment is required to investigate and offer a range of suitable alternative providers.

In 2010, the year covered by the Patients Association’s first report on elective surgery, none of the procedures had an average waiting time of more than 90 days whereas now they all do.

In February, the NHS revealed that almost 20,000 patients had their operations cancelled at the last minute in the last three months of 2014 as the NHS struggled to cope with the onset of winter causing overcrowded A&Es and bed shortages. It was the highest number for 13 years and 23% up on the equivalent period in 2013.

An NHS England spokesperson said: “Waits for an NHS operation remain close to an all time low - down from a maximum wait of 18 months over a decade ago to 18 weeks now, with the average wait less than 10 weeks. That is why public satisfaction with the NHS is near to its all time high.”

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'There are many good things about the NHS....waiting times are not one of them. The fact that there has to be a codified rule about waiting times for elective procedures (18 weeks) should be instructive.'

A couple of observations:

NHS waiting times are long because demand outstrips supply.

The loudest, most persistent criticisms of the NHS come from the mouths of people whose strategic long term goal is to dismember it, asset strip it and run its functions for private profit.

Government re-organisations often seem intended to undermine the service.

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'The removal of one's testicles is going to be a bit more difficult to reverse than the vasectomy that was incorrectly given to the chap in the May 2014 news article.'

Medical science will soon be at the point where we can grow new testicles in a vat and re-attach them. Some of us on this forum could have them attached to our heads and nobody would notice.

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Medical science will soon be at the point where we can grow new testicles in a vat and re-attach them...

Too late for Adolf.


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NHS waiting times are long because demand outstrips supply.
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You say that like it is some type of marketing accomplishment. :lol: Nobody signs up for gall bladder surgery for the free hospital food. Ditto hip transplants.

Waiting times are long as a result of a cynnical strategy to ration care. The NHS could hire 500 US orthopedists..fly them over...and line up the patients in their wheelchairs..and they could do 10,000 cases a week with proper support. Of course, it would cost more than the entire Royal Navy. ;)

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Rationing isn't 'cynical'. It's rational. Where everyone gets free care at the point of use, where resources are limited and where there is more demand than supply, there has to be a fair system for providing the service. The thing is, in the UK, if people have the money to jump the queue, there is nobody stopping them from doing that. Anyone can go to a private hospital if they are rich enough.

The problems of the NHS are partly caused by its success; if you want to put a right wing political spin on it, by taking care of their health for them, successive governments are forcing everyone to live longer, therefore the older they get the more health problems they get, and the more free-at-point-of-use health care they demand. Whilst from the other direction there is constant pressure on supply, because everybody wants free services, but nobody wants to pay for them, and according to the dominant right wing media and political mantra, especially not through taxation. Also because older people tend to retire, they don't contribute to the economy and they hardly pay tax. From a right wing perspective, a fairer system would just be to throw everyone on rubbish heaps when they cease being economically productive and have run out of their own personal money. That would make everything so much better for the 'hard working taxpayer' until they or their family get sick.

I guess one reason for opposing 'rationing' might be that it is a method for treating people equally, and since people are intrinsically unequal in so many ways, then treating them as if they are all the same when it comes to distributing the health benefits of public taxation, is somehow morally objectionable. Don't know if this is your reason.

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