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PostPosted: Sat Nov 17, 2018 4:13 pm 
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I saw the following posted on a DISCORD channel that I am on:

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The DISCORD channel was set up by Sargon of Akkad and includes some other You Tubers (Styxx, Vee, TheQuartering)

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If only. :lol:

The chief civil servant negotiating it all is an ex-communist eurofanatic. I find the above scenario... unlikely.

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Do you guys "get" why we keep our firearms now?

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 Post subject: Re: EU and Brexit
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chijohnaok wrote:
I saw the following posted on a DISCORD channel that I am on:

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I am unfamiliar with the individual that posted it so have no assurances to its authenticity.

The DISCORD channel was set up by Sargon of Akkad and includes some other You Tubers (Styxx, Vee, TheQuartering)

For anyone interested in this DISCORD, either PM me or post your interest here and I can PM you an invite to it.

So you have russian friends. :roll:

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 Post subject: Re: EU and Brexit
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Do you guys "get" why we keep our firearms now?


In fairness I'm sure you wouldn't be very happy if some Democrat shot Trump one day.

Which is... essentially the equivalent. That's the reality of insurrection really.

I don't think I'm quite at the point where I want to car bomb Dominic Grieve. ;)

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Anthropoid wrote:
Do you guys "get" why we keep our firearms now?


In fairness I'm sure you wouldn't be very happy if some Democrat shot Trump one day.

Which is... essentially the equivalent. That's the reality of insurrection really.

I don't think I'm quite at the point where I want to car bomb Dominic Grieve. ;)


Right, because eschewing your natural rights of self-defense has done wonders to reduce the overall incidence of violent crime in the U.K. . . .

Question answered: no, you don't get it. :P

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Anthropoid wrote:
EUBanana wrote:

In fairness I'm sure you wouldn't be very happy if some Democrat shot Trump one day.

Which is... essentially the equivalent. That's the reality of insurrection really.

I don't think I'm quite at the point where I want to car bomb Dominic Grieve. ;)


Right, because eschewing your natural rights of self-defense has done wonders to reduce the overall incidence of violent crime in the U.K. . . .

Question answered: no, you don't get it. :P

I agree with Anthropoid there, and with the Americans in general. It is good that the people be armed. It is good for the people. And it is good that the leaders are frightened by the people.


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I agree with Anthropoid there, and with the Americans in general. It is good that the people be armed. It is good for the people. And it is good that the leaders are frightened by the people.


I don’t think the leaders should necessarily be “frightened” of the people, but they should have a healthy respect for them. ;-)

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 Post subject: Re: EU and Brexit
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Just Brexit! The UK's Future Is With the Anglosphere
By Roger Kimball November 16, 2018
https://pjmedia.com/rogerkimball/just-b ... glosphere/

In June 2016, I was in London and reported extensively on the Brexit referendum in these pages (see here, for example, and here, here, here, and here). It was, briefly, an ebullient moment. I had been assured by everyone from taxicab drivers to Tory ministers that Brexit hadn’t a chance in hell of passing, and a good thing, too, because it represented “nativist,” “racist,” and “xenophobic” (not to mention Islamophobic and economically illiterate) elements of the population.

For me, as for a tiny coterie of friends, Brexit was centrally about sovereignty. The guiding question that precipitated it was Who Rules Britain? Is it Parliament? Or is it Brussels?

I thought it should be Parliament, i.e., the duly elected representatives of the British people, not the corrupt, unelected, and unaccountable transnational progressive elite in Brussels. So I was thrilled when the Brexit referendum won. Some Remainers grumble that the vote was close (nearly 52 percent to 48 percent and change), but in fact more people -- 17 million -- voted for Brexit than had ever voted for anything in Britain, ever.

A couple of days after the big vote I threw a small dinner party at a secure, undisclosed location in London and had the pleasure of supplying Daniel Hannan, a Conservative member of the European Parliament and a key advocate for Brexit, with his first glass of champagne in eighteen months. Dan had girded up his loins for battle and had sworn off all improving beverages until such time as Brexit was a reality. Here, at last, we were, and so was the Billecart-Salmon rosé.

The euphoria didn’t last long. Within a month or two people were distinguishing between “hard Brexit” and “soft Brexit” (code for “no Brexit”) and the oozing gummy enervating gel that is the EU in action began surrounding and suffocating those charged with reasserting British sovereignty.

Here we are, nearly two-and-a-half years later. Theresa May, who chanced into the prime ministership faute de mieux because of the consternation that the Brexit vote triggered, came to office with one clear mandate: make Brexit happen. This she has conspicuously failed to do. Under her inept -- what to call it? “Leadership” is not the right word. Under her counterproductive fussiness, the UK is on the brink of acceding to a Brexit plan that is actually worse than the status quo ante.
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One huge issue is the status of Northern Ireland. According to the current plan, Britain would agree to an indefinite “backstop” in case negotiations between Northern Ireland and the Republic of Ireland fail. The EU wants an indefinite “backstop” requiring that the UK remain subservient to the EU trade rules in case there is no agreement regarding the border and trade relations between Northern Ireland and the Republic of Ireland. “Indefinite,” Kemo Sabe. That smirking countenance you espy in the mists is that of the insufferable Michel Barnier, the EU's chief Brexit negotiator.

Not surprisingly, Eurosceptic Tory ministers are up in arms. Between the time I post this and you read it, Theresa May might be facing a vote of no confidence. At the moment, 37 of a needed 48 letters asking for the vote have been sent to her. A Tory leadership change may be right around the corner.

Not only does the EU want Britain to assume the status of an EU colony, it also wants Britain to cough up £39 billion in what can probably best be described as “reparations.” In 2017, Britain’s exports to the EU were £274 billion, nearly half of all UK exports. UK imports from the EU were £341 billion, more than 50% of the UK total. So is Britain’s future with the EU?

I would say No. The EU as currently configured is anti-democratic, asphyxiating, top-heavy Leviathan. Britain’s best future lies with the Anglosphere: with the U.S., Canada, Australia, India, and other parts of the world where English is spoken and freedom is a byword. Of course, Britain will continue to trade with the EU. All the Brussels talk about punitive tariffs is just bluster. The EU needs the UK at least as much as the UK needs the EU. If it were up to me, I would skip out on paying that £39 billion. I wouldn’t announce it. I just wouldn’t pay it. What’s Jean-Claude Juncker going to do, invade?

The EU’s usual tactic with recalcitrant voters is just to keep offering them another vote until they get it “right,” i.e., until they vote to do what Brussels wanted them to do in the first place. They are trying it again now in an effort to repeal the 2016 Brexit vote.

It might work. But there are enough angry Tory ministers in revolt that we will probably see a new Tory MP in Number 10 very soon, one with more backbone and diplomatic skill than the pathetic Theresa May. I have always had a soft-spot for Boris Johnson. And then there is the “member for the 18th Century,” the eloquent, impressively attired Jacob Rees-Mogg. Either would be light years better for Britain than Theresa May. Britannia may no longer rule the waves. It should at least assert its right to rule itself.

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 Post subject: Re: EU and Brexit
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Question answered: no, you don't get it. :P


Oh, I wasn’t thinking violent crime. Not living in dystopian London I’ve never had to!

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I agree with Anthropoid there, and with the Americans in general. It is good that the people be armed. It is good for the people. And it is good that the leaders are frightened by the people.


I don’t think the leaders should necessarily be “frightened” of the people, but they should have a healthy respect for them. ;-)

The elites start to have respect for the people. They had a tendency to disdain it. That gave the Brexit as May does it now. But many events begin to erode that disdain: the Brexit in Great Britain, the election of Trump, the elections in Italy where the government defies the EU, here in France the phenomenon of the yellow jackets... There will be other events like that, and the elites will be forced to listen to them.

In the French mainstream media, you can feel the respect, or the fear, that the ruling classes start to have for the popular ones. The French revolution (and the American one) started because of the taxes, and here in France, a revolt get organized against the taxes on gas which increase, it is the yellow jackets. And the elite understands that. The problem is that that elite is not ready to change or gives up its privileges.


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